The Updated Bracelet For The Omega Speedmaster Professional 3861 — Here Is What’s New!

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The issue with this adjustment is for some of us the outer adjustment is our “normal” setting… makes the on the fly adjustment utterly useless. Adjustment ranges needs to be larger than a link for this to be effective for everyone.
Yes, this is a really good point – 3 settings would have been just perfect.

Luckily for me though the two positions on the old clasp worked very well and afaik the new one is exactly the same but with a button, so no need to fiddle about with toothpicks in the little holes. I actually had the same problem as you initially but I found that it makes a difference which side of the bracelet you remove links from (I have no idea why), and so by experimenting with swapping them around I was able to make the inner adjustment the 'normal' setting, if that makes sense.
 
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Yes, this is a really good point – 3 settings would have been just perfect.

Luckily for me though the two positions on the old clasp worked very well and afaik the new one is exactly the same but with a button, so no need to fiddle about with toothpicks in the little holes. I actually had the same problem as you initially but I found that it makes a difference which side of the bracelet you remove links from (I have no idea why), and so by experimenting with swapping them around I was able to make the inner adjustment the 'normal' setting, if that makes sense.
Damnit. Now I’m going to have to try again and swap the link on the other side.
 
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I returned mine back in January (before the UK price increase) due to bad fitment of the bracelet - too tight or too loose & some other illogical reasons.

Regret that now & I'll pick up another when the time comes & money. The on the fly adjustment will probably help, and as above mentioned swapping links from each side.

Yes the micro adjustment (toothpicks) is the same, just slightly more fiddly when out.
 
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Two mm on an avg 7 inch wrist is an adjustment of 1.1%. If that works for you and makes your Speedmaster better for you that's great, spend the money and enjoy it. But the original design of the 3861 bracelet was flawed, imo. Omega decided they wanted the clasp the same width as the bracelet for aesthetic reasons. But that means if you build in any expansion via the traditional pinholes you get that ugly gap which many reviewers and customers freaked out about so Omega had to quickly redesign it and, voila, this is the result. To keep the new clasp length to a minimum they could only put a 2 mm extension in. But at least they put some adjustability in, mission accomplished. It's a compromised solution, imo. But people seem happy with the small adjustment. Enjoy it. I won't say anything more about it other than if the bracelet is properly sized from the start (number of links removed from the proper sides) you may not need the adjustment. That's all.
 
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I then called the NYC OB, and they said the conversion kit would only be available if I purchased a replacement bracelet. ... In both cases, I mentioned that I was aware of others that have had success in ordering just the part. They were unmoved. Why is it so difficult to give Omega a little more money?
I had this same experience in-person at the Omega Boutique on 5th Avenue in Manhattan today. I visited the Service Desk upstairs and asked for the Clasp Kit, part number 117Z017553. I was told it would not fit my Speedmaster (310.30.42.50.01.001) and I would have to order a whole new bracelet to get the new clasp. I left empty-handed.
 
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I had this same experience in-person at the Omega Boutique on 5th Avenue in Manhattan today. I visited the Service Desk upstairs and asked for the Clasp Kit, part number 117Z017553. I was told it would not fit my Speedmaster (310.30.42.50.01.001) and I would have to order a whole new bracelet to get the new clasp. I left empty-handed.

Sorry to hear others are having the same bad experience. I'm going to try again at the end of the month - I'll report back here on what happens.
 
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I had this same experience in-person at the Omega Boutique on 5th Avenue in Manhattan today. I visited the Service Desk upstairs and asked for the Clasp Kit, part number 117Z017553. I was told it would not fit my Speedmaster (310.30.42.50.01.001) and I would have to order a whole new bracelet to get the new clasp. I left empty-handed.

Omega corporate HQ needs to be made aware of the problem and issue a bulletin to all their boutiques that the kit works and the customer doesn't need to be fleeced / BS'd into buying a new bracelet.
 
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I haven't had any success yet, but...

After my earlier visit to the Omega Boutique in Manhattan, I did some additional poking around on the internet and found these videos:


This fellow clearly has the 117Z017553 clasp kit and was able to install it on his Speedmaster Pro 3861.

There is also this write-up on the Fratello Blog, which started this thread:

https://www.fratellowatches.com/updated-bracelet-for-the-omega-speedmaster-professional-3861/

which says "The upgrade kit is now available using part number: 117Z017553 (it includes the quick-adjustment clasp, and all the required parts to mount it to your existing bracelet)." That's pretty clear to me. There are photos.

Last week I went back to the Boutique after a work meeting nearby and decided to give it another try. I spoke with a different Associate this time. I told her I wanted to purchase the clasp kit and gave her the part number. She went into a back room, which has a large glass window. I could see into the room. There was a man in a white lab coat in there. He located the kit in a drawer and came out to speak with me directly. He was adamant that it was not a match for my bracelet. I didn't have my watch with me at the time, but he walked me down to the sales floor and was going to show me the mismatch on a Speedmaster Pro in their display case. Another Associate was helping another customer and they had the Speedmaster Pros occupied, though. We waited for a couple of minutes. The man in the white lab coat was pretty convincing, and seemed to be trying to help me avoid wasting money. I eventually thanked him and left empty-handed again.

This has been a bit of an ordeal over a minor clasp upgrade. Here we are entering Summer, though, and I already wish I had some tool-less adjustability on my Speedy. At some point I'll decide between:

- Just take the risk and buy the clasp kit. If it works, great! If not, I'm out $260 (USD).
- Just buy a new bracelet, which will come with the new clasp. That will cost something like $800 (USD).
- Forget the whole thing!
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I haven't had any success yet, but...

After my earlier visit to the Omega Boutique in Manhattan, I did some additional poking around on the internet and found these videos:


This fellow clearly has the 117Z017553 clasp kit and was able to install it on his Speedmaster Pro 3861.

There is also this write-up on the Fratello Blog, which started this thread:

https://www.fratellowatches.com/updated-bracelet-for-the-omega-speedmaster-professional-3861/

which says "The upgrade kit is now available using part number: 117Z017553 (it includes the quick-adjustment clasp, and all the required parts to mount it to your existing bracelet)." That's pretty clear to me. There are photos.

Last week I went back to the Boutique after a work meeting nearby and decided to give it another try. I spoke with a different Associate this time. I told her I wanted to purchase the clasp kit and gave her the part number. She went into a back room, which has a large glass window. I could see into the room. There was a man in a white lab coat in there. He located the kit in a drawer and came out to speak with me directly. He was adamant that it was not a match for my bracelet. I didn't have my watch with me at the time, but he walked me down to the sales floor and was going to show me the mismatch on a Speedmaster Pro in their display case. Another Associate was helping another customer and they had the Speedmaster Pros occupied, though. We waited for a couple of minutes. The man in the white lab coat was pretty convincing, and seemed to be trying to help me avoid wasting money. I eventually thanked him and left empty-handed again.

This has been a bit of an ordeal over a minor clasp upgrade. Here we are entering Summer, though, and I already wish I had some tool-less adjustability on my Speedy. At some point I'll decide between:

- Just take the risk and buy the clasp kit. If it works, great! If not, I'm out $260 (USD).
- Just buy a new bracelet, which will come with the new clasp. That will cost something like $800 (USD).
- Forget the whole thing!

Thanks for the detailed write up and for sharing your experience. If you go for option 1 (buying the clasp kit), please let us know if it works! Good luck!
 
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I haven't had any success yet, but...

After my earlier visit to the Omega Boutique in Manhattan, I did some additional poking around on the internet and found these videos:


This fellow clearly has the 117Z017553 clasp kit and was able to install it on his Speedmaster Pro 3861.

There is also this write-up on the Fratello Blog, which started this thread:

https://www.fratellowatches.com/updated-bracelet-for-the-omega-speedmaster-professional-3861/

which says "The upgrade kit is now available using part number: 117Z017553 (it includes the quick-adjustment clasp, and all the required parts to mount it to your existing bracelet)." That's pretty clear to me. There are photos.

Last week I went back to the Boutique after a work meeting nearby and decided to give it another try. I spoke with a different Associate this time. I told her I wanted to purchase the clasp kit and gave her the part number. She went into a back room, which has a large glass window. I could see into the room. There was a man in a white lab coat in there. He located the kit in a drawer and came out to speak with me directly. He was adamant that it was not a match for my bracelet. I didn't have my watch with me at the time, but he walked me down to the sales floor and was going to show me the mismatch on a Speedmaster Pro in their display case. Another Associate was helping another customer and they had the Speedmaster Pros occupied, though. We waited for a couple of minutes. The man in the white lab coat was pretty convincing, and seemed to be trying to help me avoid wasting money. I eventually thanked him and left empty-handed again.

This has been a bit of an ordeal over a minor clasp upgrade. Here we are entering Summer, though, and I already wish I had some tool-less adjustability on my Speedy. At some point I'll decide between:

- Just take the risk and buy the clasp kit. If it works, great! If not, I'm out $260 (USD).
- Just buy a new bracelet, which will come with the new clasp. That will cost something like $800 (USD).
- Forget the whole thing!

This is the correct reference and fits perfectly. See my post on April 23rd in this thread with photos. The Omega boutique installed the clasp with ref 117Z017553 for me and it's perfect. It is exactly the same size as the original one, so you don't need to add/remove any links. In comfort it's identical as well, only the cover of the clasp is bit longer to cover the extension part.
It terms of look, I like it better it balances a bit better with the head of the watch.

This man in a white lab coat clearly doesn't know what he is talking about...
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Anyone had any recent success? If so, mind sharing where?
I had success in the Birmingham Bullring boutique. The staff agreed to order the kit but I decided not to at the time.
 
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Listed for around 210 euro’s on the internal Omega website according at my local AD.
 
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I had success in the Birmingham Bullring boutique. The staff agreed to order the kit but I decided not to at the time.

Thanks for the tip. I'm in the U.S., so probably makes sense for me to find a U.S. boutique, but good to know some are willing to sell it.
 
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Thanks for the tip. I'm in the U.S., so probably makes sense for me to find a U.S. boutique, but good to know some are willing to sell it.

I was able to order one through the US parts center, since I don't have an OB nearby. That was about a month ago, and it was backordered with an estimate of 4-6 weeks. I haven't received it yet, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed to hear something soon.
 
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I visited the same Omega Boutique again today having decided to just buy the clasp kit and see if it works. I felt like I had seen enough evidence online that it should work and while $264 is not nothing to me, it’s a loss I would certainly survive if it didn’t work.

This time I had my Speedy with me. I went upstairs to the service desk. There was a different Associate at the desk, someone I hadn’t spoken with during my previous visits. I explained what I wanted. He was happy to help. I gave him the part number for the clasp kit. He took my watch to the back room. A few minutes later he emerged and my watch had the new clasp installed. Easy!

In fact, the gentleman in the white lab coat also came out and talked to me for a bit. As before, he was gracious and took the time to answer my questions. I didn’t feel the need to crow “Aha! You told me last time it wouldn’t fit my watch!” I think these guys are sincere in trying to help customers. My overall experience probably reveals some residual confusion among the Boutique staff from the days before this particular clasp kit became available and customers were unsuccessfully trying to fit the Chronoscope clasp onto their Speedmaster Pro bracelets.

There are two benefits to the new clasp that I can discern:
1. Adjusting the clasp between its two settings is done via a push-button instead of requiring a spring-bar tool (or toothpick). This makes adjustments much easier on-the-go.
2. The top part of the clasp (the cover) extends a bit further over the end-link to hide the “notch” that had become visible at the extended position on the original clasp. This makes the new clasp appear a bit neater when in that position.

The new clasp does not offer any additional adjustment positions. There are two positions on both the original clasp and on the new clasp. As best I can tell, these two positions are the same. That is, after having the new clasp installed on my watch and set to the same position, it fit my wrist exactly the same.

I do wish the new clasp offered more adjustment positions. Adding and removing links, with those microscopically small screws, is something I would only do at home under bright light with everything on a tray. More adjustment positions at the clasp would cover the sizing needs of more customers when on-the-go.

So, for me, this particular side quest on my watch journey is complete, with a good ending. Thanks for following along. The Speedmaster Pro is a fantastic watch. I hope you all enjoy yours as much I enjoy mine.
 
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Thank you. I don't need the adjustment however, it's nice to know it's available!
 
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The new clasp does not offer any additional adjustment positions. There are two positions on both the original clasp and on the new clasp. As best I can tell, these two positions are the same. That is, after having the new clasp installed on my watch and set to the same position, it fit my wrist exactly the same.

I do wish the new clasp offered more adjustment positions. Adding and removing links, with those microscopically small screws, is something I would only do at home under bright light with everything on a tray. More adjustment positions at the clasp would cover the sizing needs of more customers when on-the-go.

Has anyone tried drilling a THIRD adjustment hole in the clasp for enhanced adjustment range? Would a third hole even work with the design of the new push-adjust clasp?

If so, what would the diameter of the hole need to be to match the OEM holes?
 
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Also - since Omega has update their 3861 clasp for on the fly micro adjust, has Omega also updated the clasp of their Apollo 11 50th bracelet flat link clasp for similar on the fly micro adjust functionality?