A "Swiss Made" chrono from Ebay

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Recently sold by Tajan for EUR 1820 this reference 22441 (serial 784861). Not sure about this dial - but it may be just the picture...

 

And one auctioned - but no sale - by Boule. Estimate was EUR 4.000-6.000. Serial: 10737xx

 

double meh

 

I was surprised to see that this thread was still going and on page 5. Since I thought it was just about one watch, I stopped reading it a while ago. But it looks like this has become a general Aero Compax thread, not just about that one watch, so I will need to remember to keep reading.

 

Changed the title of the thread

 

an example of a "swiss made" dial from 42-43 that looks original to me

 

Hello Ben,
Just a speculation - on this particular watch (Compur ref 22223) couldn’t the “Swiss made” have been added later? The dial looks all nice and original, but the reference and serial number would normally (probably) imply a dial without “Swiss” on it.... (??)
The “Swiss made” has a strange serif font and kind of does not fit the radius of the other printing well...
Similarly for the “rolex caseback” Compur 22208 you posted earlier - it’s a serial and dial design I would expect to have no markings...

Do we know in what year (serial) UG started to put “Swiss” consistently on the chrono dials?

Re: 2&3 handers - I know nothing of them, wouldn’t dare to judge them, sorry.

Btw. This “Swiss made” debate would merit a proper thread...

 

Bonhams just sold this one for GBP 2.500 excl 27.5%
Descriptions:
Model: Aero-Compax
Reference: 22289
Date: Circa 1950
Movement: 17-jewel Cal.281 manual wind, column wheel chronograph, No.232869
Dial: Brushed silvered, Arabic numerals, black outer 1/5th second divisions with Arabic numeral 5 minute markers, outer blue 60-1000 scale, textured subsidiary dials at 12, 3, 6 and 9 for time registration, seconds, 12 hour and 30 minute recording, blued steel dagger hands with luminous inserts, centre chronograph hand
Case: Brushed and polished round, screw down back, crown flanked by twin pushers, No.1072931
Strap/Bracelet: Tan leather
Buckle/Clasp: Steel buckle
Signed: Case, dial & movement
Size: 35mm

 

Washed dial/non UG chrono hand explains the close price.

 

dial and H/M hands are extremely poor IMO, plus the chrono sweep is wrong

 

Agreed. Don't think that there much bargains at the big houses anyway

 

Nice one for sale in Japan. Asking: JPY 780k or EUR 6.400/USD 7.400.

http://watchnet.co.jp/en/all-items/84769/

 

Lol, I think I've seen ads for a strip club with the same name "Private Eyes" on NYC cabs.

 

Name is indeed a bit curious

 

Lot 449 in the upcoming AQ auction....Not a word about the dial: https://catalog.antiquorum.swiss/en/lots/universal-ref-22403-aero-compax-lot-333-449?page=23

 

Idiots.

 

I think it has a description of dial at the bottom but it's not that great-
Dial: 3-6-8-01
Good
Slightly oxidized
Slightly scratched
HANDS Original

Looks like an owner applied lume to the dial at some point in its life..

 

Sometimes it's kind of a code. If not mentioned original it is not. No fair business practice IMHO

 

Interesting 22414 on Chrono24: https://www.chrono24.nl/universalgenve/universal-geneve-aero-compax-oversize--id18101474.htm