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·My only Illinois RR I own, hopefully more will eventuate.
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Waltesefalcon
·If you're only going to have one, that is a fantastic one to have.
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·Since we are showing off Model 9 Bunn Specials, here is my (rather more mundane) example from 1921. When I got this one it was in a heavily worn and brassed Dueber 20 year case that someone had tried to try the bezel off of instead of unthreading it. So I've recased it in this nice little sterling Crescent case.
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·Today I received this Model 5 Sangamo Special made in 1900. It's running and so far keeping time, but it is dirty and I'll need to service it. It's in need of another dial, I thought I had one but was mistaken in that. The case is just a cheap nickel case with a fogged plastic crystal. I'll look through my stock of cases and see what I have that better suits it later.
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··Home For Wayward WatchesOOOooo... two tone, Waltesefalcon!
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·A Sangamo Special update. After a quick search about I found a pretty clean dial, but it in Roman numerals, so a bit out of place on a railroad watch from 1900, but it looks good. I also stole the silver case I had bought for my Bunn Special and put the Bunn back in its original case. Now both watches are easily read. When I was changing dials on the Sangamo, I went ahead and snapped a photo of the pillar plate to show off the damaskeening. Here is the final prouct.
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·Today I am wearing my old Model 1 Grade 101 11J, circa 1883, watch that I bought from our own @TexOmega several years back. It is in a hefty three ounce coin silver case.
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·I have a model 1 as well. The model one Illinois movement (key wind) is adaptable to either open faced or hunting case. Mine is in a heavy coin silver hunter case. Mine has only 7 jewels.
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·Today I have on this circa 1882 Model 2, Grade 2, with 11J. It is a hunting configuration watch, but I stole its 4oz coin silver case for my new Columbus Railway King.
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·I don’t know if this is the rule, but the model 2 is a transitional key/stem wind. It would have been easy for Illinois to have produced these as stem wind only, without the key winder feature. Likely produced this way so that it appealed to the owner who wanted a key winder, or the owner who preferred stem wind. As a key winder, the movement was suitable either for an open face application, or a hunter case application. I have two model 2, grade 4 Railroader models in hunter cases. Interestingly, not railroad approved!
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·I don’t know if this is the rule, but the model 2 is a transitional key/stem wind. It would have been easy for Illinois to have produced these as stem wind only, without the key winder feature. Likely produced this way so that it appealed to the owner who wanted a key winder, or the owner who preferred stem wind. As a key winder, the movement was suitable either for an open face application, or a hunter case application. I have two model 2, grade 4 Railroader models in hunter cases. Interestingly, not railroad approved!
One of these days I will need to find a model 2 grade 4 railroader to add to the collection.
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·My two model 2, grade 4 Regulators. This is the only watch that Illinois ever engraved an image on the movement. The one dial is a rare24-hour variety, with the Arabic numerals 13 to 24 superimposed on the Roman numerals. There were (IIRC) 4,000 of this model made they both had 11 jewels, and are not railroad grade.
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·Absolutely lovely. I'm definitely going to have to find one one of these days.
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·I am wearing this Model 2 Grade 2 again today after recasing it back into its proper case. This watch I did not think worked, so when I was looking for a case for my new Columbus Railway King it seemed like a good candidate, being only seven years older than the Columbus. Anyway, I went to pull the movement and it started running. I decided to go ahead and give the case a light cleaning since the mov't was out (it was nearly black with tarnish) and I cased the mov't in a spare case to see if it would run. I wore it and the next morning it was still running, albeit about six minutes slow. It ran down after only 28 hours, which is less than I like but beggars can't be choosers, right? After letting the case dry thoroughly I recased it and adjusted the regulator a smidge. The case cleaned up nicely, and only has a couple of smallish dents. The engraving on the front is light but still pretty visable in person. I will probably tear it down over my Christmas break and clean it, and maybe replace the main spring if I have a spare.
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·https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/illinois/398787
The S# is hard to read, but I think I have it right. Nice bright looking movement. These old guys usually only run 32 to 36 hours on a wind, so you sort of have to try to wind them about the same time every day to keep them running. Case coin silver, or sterling?
The S# is hard to read, but I think I have it right. Nice bright looking movement. These old guys usually only run 32 to 36 hours on a wind, so you sort of have to try to wind them about the same time every day to keep them running. Case coin silver, or sterling?
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Waltesefalcon
·You are really close, it is 398737. That entry from the Pocket Watch Database applies to my watch as well. https://pocketwatchdatabase.com/search/result/illinois/398737
I was really hoping it would run for a touch over 30 hours, but I am not overly disappointed that it only runs 28 hours with a full wind.
It resides in a Fahy's Coin Silver case.
I was really hoping it would run for a touch over 30 hours, but I am not overly disappointed that it only runs 28 hours with a full wind.
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·Today I am wearing this Model 1, grade 'Hoyt,' circa 1873. I have had this one for awhile, but let it sit in my 'project' box until about a month ago. I sent this one off to Chris Abell for a service. This one is my oldest Illinois, so kind of a milestone in my Illinois collection, and I thought that made it worthy of the same treatment my RR grade watches usually get, which is a service from a real watchmaker instead of me.
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·Sometimes I will buy an orphan movement, and this Model 5 "Getty" caught my eye with its damaskeening pattern and lovely dial. It is a 21j mov't and the serial number places its date of production in 1909. I don't know if I will try very hard to find a "Burlington" marked case for it, or if I will just find an something I like for it. For the time being I have cased it in one of my spare cases. It started running while I was casing it, so I went ahead and wound it and set it after I was done. I am off this week and next, so I am hoping to have the time to break it down and service it before next semester starts.
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·Today I am wearing this Model 1, grade 'Hoyt,' circa 1873. I have had this one for awhile, but let it sit in my 'project' box until about a month ago. I sent this one off to Chris Abell for a service. This one is my oldest Illinois, so kind of a milestone in my Illinois collection, and I thought that made it worthy of the same treatment my RR grade watches usually get, which is a service from a real watchmaker instead of me.
From the pocketwatchdatabase site. The Getty look is quite sought after by many Illinois collectors. While the movement is marked. Burlington, the S# info comes front the Illinois S# list.
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