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gostang9
·...Suggesting that everyone should embrace restoration, is as daft as suggesting everyone should love Rolex, or Cheese, or Aerosmith.
https://goo.gl/images/HRLojv
The bad press received by watch restoration.
https://goo.gl/images/HRLojv
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tyrantlizardrex
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Apparently... they are fools. 😎
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gostang9
·Apparently... they are fools. 😎
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thegreentreefrog
·Wow, you must really love this guy. This is the 3rd repeat post with the same pictures and the same text I have seen since yesterday...
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tyrantlizardrex
·No, The thread is about"BAD PRESS for restorations", I wanted to leave some GOOD PRESS about a Restoration.
Welcome to the forum.
Posting the same thing in multiple threads is typically considered rather , or spammy.
Caps = Shouting. Please don't do that.
If you have a problem with a dealer, and feel the need to complain, maybe start a fresh thread rather than also posting about that everywhere?
A restoration typically cosmetically, and mechanically restores a watch to look and run like it would have when brand new, stripping out any markings of age, or wear.
It looks like you watch has been serviced, had the crystal replaced, and the case back swapped for a third party item. Nothing wrong with that, but not a restoration.
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thegreentreefrog
·Thanks, for your advise . I will start a new post about the dealer I'm having the problem with. Regards,Thefrog
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...I think we need to put some things into historical perspective there are 4 classes of "restored" watches going on.
1) Watches serviced in the 70's and 80's. These often where polished, had replacement dial, hands, and bezels put on them as was the preferred way of doing it as they were just watches at the time. It was often cheaper to do a full service and get a new dial and hands then buy a new watch and receive a new looking watch. Do this a few times with polishing and we have poor lugs... Also the exact reason why DON's are priced where they are.
2) The bad ebay flippers, who polish the heck out of a turd and often have resale dials, not to mention any names but I'm sure you can think of some VIVID examples...
3) Local old school watchmakers that have no idea about the collector market, someone with no knowledge brings a piece in and wants it serviced and they often adhear to the practices from the 70's and 80's and give the uneducated customer what they want a new looking watch with no love for what collectors are looking for.
4) Sympathetic to the collectors market watchmakers, who go to great lengths to keep the watch as original as possible and retain value to the current collectors market. Examples of this have been noted above.
1) Watches serviced in the 70's and 80's. These often where polished, had replacement dial, hands, and bezels put on them as was the preferred way of doing it as they were just watches at the time. It was often cheaper to do a full service and get a new dial and hands then buy a new watch and receive a new looking watch. Do this a few times with polishing and we have poor lugs... Also the exact reason why DON's are priced where they are.
2) The bad ebay flippers, who polish the heck out of a turd and often have resale dials, not to mention any names but I'm sure you can think of some VIVID examples...
3) Local old school watchmakers that have no idea about the collector market, someone with no knowledge brings a piece in and wants it serviced and they often adhear to the practices from the 70's and 80's and give the uneducated customer what they want a new looking watch with no love for what collectors are looking for.
4) Sympathetic to the collectors market watchmakers, who go to great lengths to keep the watch as original as possible and retain value to the current collectors market. Examples of this have been noted above.
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Professor
·Wow, you must really love this guy. This is the 3rd repeat post with the same pictures and the same text I have seen since yesterday...
If that were my watch I'd have t-shirts and hats printed with those images along with an advert for the guy who did the work.
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tyrantlizardrex
·If that were my watch I'd have t-shirts and hats printed with those images along with an advert for the guy who did the work.
For an after market case back, and a new crystal?
Folks sure are easily pleased around here these days...
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Professor
·For an after market case back, and a new crystal?
Folks sure are easily pleased around here these days...
An OEM replacement crystal does no more to reduce its value in my eyes than replacing a cracked or broken windshield of a Cadillac. Crystals are consumables, they catch heck and occasionally need to be replaced. They are a mass produced item not hand blown and polished by gnomes.
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thegreentreefrog
·The display case back is not my cupa cha, that is a personal touch that I would not have considered but that's the choice of the owner. I'm sure he has the original case back around should he decide to switch it out again.
An OEM replacement crystal does no more to reduce its value in my eyes than replacing a cracked or broken windshield of a Cadillac. Crystals are consumables, they catch heck and occasionally need to be replaced. They are a mass produced item not hand blown and polished by gnomes.
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tyrantlizardrex
·The display case back is not my cupa cha, that is a personal touch that I would not have considered but that's the choice of the owner. I'm sure he has the original case back around should he decide to switch it out again.
An OEM replacement crystal does no more to reduce its value in my eyes than replacing a cracked or broken windshield of a Cadillac. Crystals are consumables, they catch heck and occasionally need to be replaced. They are a mass produced item not hand blown and polished by gnomes.
My point being that this is not mind blowing stuff... getting “t-shirts” made because a watchmaker changed a crystal at service seems like an extreme measure.
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tyrantlizardrex
·Jeff gets all his parts from OMEGA, its the only way to control QUALITY! The case back was done by a Master Jeweler in Germany Thomas Preik (Customwatchconcepts.com). I truly enjoy the watch more with the WINDOW TO THE MOVEMENT!
Again with the shouting...
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Professor
·My point being that this is not mind blowing stuff... getting “t-shirts” made because a watchmaker changed a crystal at service seems like an extreme measure.
I was speaking of the overall beauty of this watch. Its a stunning piece.
I have no idea what it looked like before the restoration. A before image would be nice.
As I said the display back is a personal choice. I liked these till I saw so many of them. These days I'd rather not have one. Though I do love to watch a movement at work.
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Professor
·I was speaking of the overall beauty of this watch. Its a stunning piece.
You do recognize the concept of exaggeration for effect?
I have no idea what it looked like before the restoration. A before image would be nice.
As I said the display back is a personal choice. I liked these till I saw so many of them. These days I'd rather not have one. Though I do love to watch a movement at work.
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eugeneandresson
·If that were my watch I'd have t-shirts and hats printed with those images along with an advert for the guy who did the work.
You are missing the point.
No, The thread is about"BAD PRESS for restorations", I wanted to leave some GOOD PRESS about a Restoration.
If you want to do the guy who worked on your watch a solid favor by potentially giving him some work based on your experience (and in the same breath you want folk to take you seriously), then create a thread about it, saying your say, where folks can add to or detract from, AS OPPOSED TO SPAMMING.
Capeesh?
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tyrantlizardrex
·I was speaking of the overall beauty of this watch. Its a stunning piece.
I have no idea what it looked like before the restoration. A before image would be nice.
As I said the display back is a personal choice. I liked these till I saw so many of them. These days I'd rather not have one. Though I do love to watch a movement at work.
If you look at the picture you can see the case has marks on, so it’s not been refinished... the dial has gone brown, the lume in the hands match the dial... so from the pictures you can only really tell that it has a new crystal, and the caseback.
Again, this is a watch that’s been serviced, not restored... a restoration implies a return to “as new”.
If you find it beautiful, great, but that’s thanks to the designers.
At most the watch maker cleaned, serviced, and fitted a new crystal, which is great, but they didn’t magically return this to as new.
They did work I’d expect a competent watch maker to do.
Hence the feeling that you’re over gilding the lily a little with your statement... exaggeration or not.
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ChrisN
·Jeff gets all his parts from OMEGA, its the only way to control QUALITY! The case back was done by a Master Jeweler in Germany Thomas Preik (Customwatchconcepts.com). I truly enjoy the watch more with the WINDOW TO THE MOVEMENT!
Regards, Chris
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