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Strange dial on a 105.012-63, what is it ? Speedmaster !

  1. omegastar Aug 13, 2017

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    Hi to all fellow members.
    This one owner Speedmaster was sold locally for 5.500€ today.
    As I am out of funds right now and I was having questions about the dial, I participated shyly and didn't buy it in the end.
    The question remains about the position of the T Swiss Made T on the dial.
    I hope some of you can educate me for the next opportunity.
    I only have those 3 pics as the original ad has been erased since the sale completed.

    P.S.: I know about the replaced hands, bracelet and probably the crown.

    IMG_5386.JPG IMG_5387.JPG IMG_5388.JPG
     
  2. Igora Aug 13, 2017

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    to me position of Ts look correct (close Ts).
     
  3. P.Greg Aug 13, 2017

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    Hi,

    I've seen this watch on the auction site and ask several questions to the seller. He states that the reference was 105.012-63 and later states that the watch was from 1966 ::confused2:: and was ready to sell it for 3300 € :)

    The replacement bracelet, hands and crown and the lack of pictures scared me.
     
  4. omegastar Aug 13, 2017

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    It is always a stressful situation, especially when there are a lot of candidates.
    As he gave his phone number, most of the deal took place by phone. If I remember correctly there was a pic of the case back with the 105.012-63 engraving and a pic of the movement with the serial.
     
  5. omegastar Aug 13, 2017

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    I was referring to the low position of the T Swiss Made T, not sticking to the minute track. More like a wide Ts dial.
     
  6. omegastar Aug 14, 2017

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    Is anybody out there ?
     
  7. P.Greg Aug 14, 2017

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    In the e-moonwatch only iBook, the position of the of the T Swiss Made T is a little bit lower on the B3 (Spaced T) dial than on the B2 (Close T) dial who is very close to the minute track.
     
  8. omegastar Aug 14, 2017

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    That's exactly what I noticed too.
     
  9. Maitreyoda007 Aug 14, 2017

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    You should have bought it!
     
  10. Maitreyoda007 Aug 14, 2017

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    Even if the chrono hand, the pushers and the crown are wrong ;)
     
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  11. omegastar Aug 14, 2017

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    Timing was not right, I was on the road heading to my parents in law's place with the kids.
    I know that if I start hunting I can't do anything else, so I played it tourist mode...
     
  12. omegastar Aug 14, 2017

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    Oui, mais ce cadran ?
     
  13. P.Greg Aug 14, 2017

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    Toujours d'après le livre, il semble correct à la référence 105.012-65 et -66 ;)
     
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  14. MaiLollo Aug 14, 2017

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    La prochaine fois, envoie moi un petit MP et je participerai à l'enchère :D
     
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  15. Maitreyoda007 Aug 14, 2017

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    Le cadran est bon, au vu de l'année ca peut être un "asymetrical", c'est à dire que les T ont été rajoutés par la suite cause d'un changement de réglementation sur les matériaux radioactifs. Le T veux dire tritium.
     
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  16. Maitreyoda007 Aug 14, 2017

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    Veut pardon.
     
  17. omegastar Aug 14, 2017

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    C'est ce que je pensait aussi !
    Mais j'aimerais en être sûr, que les experts confirment la théorie.
    Mais bon ça nous fait un petit post frenchie....
     
  18. omegastar Aug 14, 2017

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    Oui, mais je suis en Belgique et ici on se déplace et on paie cash.
     
  19. Maitreyoda007 Aug 14, 2017

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    C'est pas désagréable du reste ;)
     
  20. MaiLollo Aug 14, 2017

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    Aucun souci, je ne pense pas que ce soit spécifique à la Belgique ce mode de fonctionnement ;)
     
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