Speedy 2020 Calibre 321

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Not really, at 10x the price youre thinking patek master comp grade watches, assembled and finished by hand

not just assembled from finished production parts
Wasn’t thinking any specific brand, I’d loose count of the number of watches now selling above 200k aud and I’d bet majority aren’t hand chiselled by one master craftsmen etc
 
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For me it is just a big marketing exercise. Omega knows it can sell a boat load of these. They make up a little story to accompany it and double the price. Don’t get me wrong I do like the watch but not the marketing that goes alongside.
 
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I dont mind the marketing , actually I like that Omega puts in a little effort with the limited speedmasters. Just imagine there is a speedmaster out there to suit everybody's tastes and if you don't want all that the standard edition is Available.

I look forward to see what new speedmaster is going to be released in antngiven year and if it's worth adding to the collection.

This one however, I dont think I'm interested in mainly due to the price point.
 
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For me it is just a big marketing exercise. Omega knows it can sell a boat load of these. They make up a little story to accompany it and double the price. Don’t get me wrong I do like the watch but not the marketing that goes alongside.

It’s not what it seems on the surface, Omega’s not trying to milk it’s customers it’s doing the right thing by its customers.
Swiss watch companies have almost no choice but to go up market.
The data is showing the lower end of the Swiss watch market is falling (many blame Apple Watch) while the higher end is gaining strength (many blame Instagram, social media, NAM and similar from emerging economies).
Omega knowing this isn’t just upping the price it’s working on giving us more for the higher price.....I’m not convinced others are giving you more from increasing prices like Omega is.
 
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Wasn’t thinking any specific brand, I’d loose count of the number of watches now selling above 200k aud and I’d bet majority aren’t hand chiselled by one master craftsmen etc
Why compare to the lowest common denominator. fact is, omega chose to advertise this as a key point of differentiation
 
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Why compare to the lowest common denominator. fact is, omega chose to advertise this as a key point of differentiation
I wasn’t disputing any of Omegas claim.
 
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Yeah but omega isnt forcing their SEs on anybody, if people don't want special editions they are welcome to buy the standard moonwatch which is still an amazing watch.


However, for those of us that like variety in aesthetic choice and enjoy collecting watches, we have more options with the special editions.

I dont get it when people complain about endless special editions, they're not being forced on anyone. The speedmasters are beautiful watches and taking risks with designs and reviving old calibers just give consumers more choice.
 
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I think once future 321 owners get this in their hand they’ll find its money very well spent.
 
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I dont get it when people complain about endless special editions, they're not being forced on anyone. The speedmasters are beautiful watches and taking risks with designs and reviving old calibers just give consumers more choice.

Agree 100%. While many may love "brand purity" like what Rolex do, others like myself do not. It just means if you don't like the limited designs they offer then you'll never buy one of their watches. Variety in a highly subjective market is a good thing.
 
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It’s not what it seems on the surface, Omega’s not trying to milk it’s customers it’s doing the right thing by its customers.
Swiss watch companies have almost no choice but to go up market.
The data is showing the lower end of the Swiss watch market is falling (many blame Apple Watch) while the higher end is gaining strength (many blame Instagram, social media, NAM and similar from emerging economies).
Omega knowing this isn’t just upping the price it’s working on giving us more for the higher price.....I’m not convinced others are giving you more from increasing prices like Omega is.

By "more" in this case you mean giving us a watch with a movement they stopped using 50+ years ago? Now that's innovation! 😉
 
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By "more" in this case you mean giving us a watch with a movement they stopped using 50+ years ago? Now that's innovation! 😉

If enough people ask for it then they shall receive...along with a hefty premium for asking in the first place! Omega says thank you, cha-ching.
 
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BTW has anyone here ordered one?

Registered my interest when the watch was first announced, not heard anything yet.
 
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For me it is just a big marketing exercise. Omega knows it can sell a boat load of these. They make up a little story to accompany it and double the price. Don’t get me wrong I do like the watch but not the marketing that goes alongside.

Ah, but I don't wear the marketing just the watch which is awesome.
 
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By "more" in this case you mean giving us a watch with a movement they stopped using 50+ years ago? Now that's innovation! 😉
Not everything has to be innovation, especially when talking mechanical watches.
I’d say remaking a movement not made for 50 years is some task indeed and would come at a significant cost for Omega.
 
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understand this is hard to get yet the thing stopping me is the price point
 
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I’d say remaking a movement not made for 50 years is some task indeed and would come at a significant cost for Omega.

Let me be clear: I like that they did this, but the reality is, this is a business, and the “significant cost” you mention would not have been undertaken had it not been determined that there was a profit at the other end, either directly, or via a halo effect.
 
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Let me be clear: I like that they did this, but the reality is, this is a business, and the “significant cost” you mention would not have been undertaken had it not been determined that there was a profit at the other end, either directly, or via a halo effect.
Agree but that’s also kinda a cynical way of always looking at it, equally you can say fans asked for it Omega delivered, the whole profit part goes without saying.
 
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Not everything has to be innovation, especially when talking mechanical watches.
I’d say remaking a movement not made for 50 years is some task indeed and would come at a significant cost for Omega.

The movement has been made far more recently than that, just not used by Omega (used by Breguet). In addition Omega has had many spares available for this movement, so contrary to the marketing they aren't resurrecting some long lost movement that required "scanning" a watch to determine what it looked like. That is all BS...
 
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Btw Archer, maybe you’ve answered similar before but which do you consider the best Speedmaster movement including upto the very latest?