So I'm relatively new to automatic watches too and have found this to be so true. I loosing 2 seconds a day or so and occasionally 3 when I first got the watch in Sept. I would wind it up, wear it a bit less often and it was at that rhythm. Then I started wearing it every day and putting it in the travel case, crown side down at night, and it has maintained it's position at +0 for 5 days in a row now!!
So it seems one or two seconds on the 8500 is normal, but if you wear it a bit and crown rest, it really settles down!
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