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Some of the advice made here is the reason many new owners of manual wind watches are terrified of over winding, myself included.

I personally cannot tell whatsoever if my FOIS is unwound, half wound or almost fully wound. I wind it until it stops. The feeling is obvious once you’ve felt it. It’s like hitting a brick wall. I think you’d have to try quite hard to get enough grip on the crown to overwind.
 
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Some of the advice made here is the reason many new owners of manual wind watches are terrified of over winding, myself included.

I personally cannot tell whatsoever if my FOIS is unwound, half wound or almost fully wound. I wind it until it stops. The feeling is obvious once you’ve felt it. It’s like hitting a brick wall. I think you’d have to try quite hard to get enough grip on the crown to overwind.

Exactly. I have been asked by countless people over the years why their watch doesn't run as long as it should, and it's often because of the over the top "warnings" on forums about winding it too much and the fear that something will be damaged. To be clear, you would have to work pretty hard to damage something, so as I said in my first post in this thread, just wind it until you can wind it anymore. As you say that point will be obvious, and there's no reason for people to overthink it.

Cheers, Al
 
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Hi all, I have an issue in winding my speedy pro as well. When I turn the crown it always comes back at least quarter of a turn. This happens even if the mainspring is loose or very stiff when it is fully wound up. Naturally I could take it to the service since it is still under warranty, since it’s quite new (6 months) but it would take three to four weeks to get it back (according AD). So is that a common feature or should I take it to the service to avoid any further damage.

I appreciate any comment or advice, thank you in advance.
 
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Sami Sami
Hi all, I have an issue in winding my speedy pro as well. When I turn the crown it always comes back at least quarter of a turn. This happens even if the mainspring is loose or very stiff when it is fully wound up. Naturally I could take it to the service since it is still under warranty, since it’s quite new (6 months) but it would take three to four weeks to get it back (according AD). So is that a common feature or should I take it to the service to avoid any further damage.

I appreciate any comment or advice, thank you in advance.

What you describe is a normal occurrence and a common characteristic of a manual wind watch mechanism.
A 1/4 of a turn spring back of the Winding crown is not what I experience with mine. Perhaps it's more in the order of 1/6 or maybe even a little less. Either way, it's consistent with expected norms and I should imagine yours is the same.

If you should take it back, I expect they will say it's perfectly normal upon inspection.
 
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Sami Sami
Hi all, I have an issue in winding my speedy pro as well. When I turn the crown it always comes back at least quarter of a turn. This happens even if the mainspring is loose or very stiff when it is fully wound up. Naturally I could take it to the service since it is still under warranty, since it’s quite new (6 months) but it would take three to four weeks to get it back (according AD). So is that a common feature or should I take it to the service to avoid any further damage.

I appreciate any comment or advice, thank you in advance.

Normal - it's just the click backing up slightly on the tooth of the ratchet wheel...
 
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Normal - it's just the click backing up slightly on the tooth of the ratchet wheel...
Thanks Al, great to hear that everything is in order.
 
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What you describe is a normal occurrence and a common characteristic of a manual wind watch mechanism.
A 1/4 of a turn spring back of the Winding crown is not what I experience with mine. Perhaps it's more in the order of 1/6 or maybe even a little less. Either way, it's consistent with expected norms and I should imagine yours is the same.

If you should take it back, I expect they will say it's perfectly normal upon inspection.

Thanks Duckie, for very profound description. I totally missed your reply at the first time probably because I was browsing the site on my phone. And yes, you are quite right it is more in the order of 1/6 or less as you wrote. I just haven’t experienced this with my automatic watches and I thought this manual winding would behave similarly but now I know better thanks to you.
 
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Sami Sami
Thanks Duckie, for very profound description. I totally missed your reply at the first time probably because I was browsing the site on my phone. And yes, you are quite right it is more in the order of 1/6 or less as you wrote. I just haven’t experienced this with my automatic watches and I thought this manual winding would behave similarly but now I know better thanks to you.
If you are still worried, go to the OB or AD, wind those that they have in the shops and contrast them with yours
 
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I'd be sending the watch back to Omega and let them take care of it.

If this watch was your “problem”, and you were to send the watch back to Omega to have them correct the slight reversing of the crown during winding, you would be very disappointed to find there is no solution available. This is precisely how every stem winder ever made is designed,
 
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If this watch was your “problem”, and you were to send the watch back to Omega to have them correct the slight reversing of the crown during winding, you would be very disappointed to find there is no solution available. This is precisely how every stem winder ever made is designed,

The OP mentioned the following and winding the watch with no stop to the handwinding action is not something I've experienced with a Speedmaster with a hand wound movement.
But either way I always feel it's a better idea send the watch via the official channels rather than the various one man band operators who may cut corners.

"I heard a 'clank' as I got to the winder/crown stop, then noticed that I could keep winding the watch without hitting the crown stop.

The watch ran fine from 6:30am till 2:30pm then stopped. Then, after 15 minutes, it started running again. I wound it a bit after that and it ran another 12 hours or so. I'm afraid of winding it this morning so as to prevent any damage."
 
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The OP mentioned the following and winding the watch with no stop to the handwinding action is not something I've experienced with a Speedmaster with a hand wound movement.
But either way I always feel it's a better idea send the watch via the official channels rather than the various one man band operators who may cut corners.

"I heard a 'clank' as I got to the winder/crown stop, then noticed that I could keep winding the watch without hitting the crown stop.

The watch ran fine from 6:30am till 2:30pm then stopped. Then, after 15 minutes, it started running again. I wound it a bit after that and it ran another 12 hours or so. I'm afraid of winding it this morning so as to prevent any damage."

I'm guessing a year on from the original post he's probably had this fixed long ago...
 
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I'm guessing a year on from the original post he's probably had this fixed long ago...

So I'm guessing that
Canuck said: "this is precisely how every stem winder ever made is designed" is not correct, and a Speedy Pro that doesn't have a stop, is not how every stem winder ever made is designed? therefore send it back for service is the correct advice.
 
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therefore send it back for service is the correct advice.

Only if you didn't read that he was answering a completely different question...
 
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Only if you didn't read that he was answering a completely different question...

My advice still stands, if the watch does not stop when fully wound then there is a problem and needs fixing, Canuck jump on my post mentioning that my advice to have the watch looked at would not resolve anything as this is how they all work and reference a different issue all together.
 
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My advice still stands, if the watch does not stop when fully wound then there is a problem and needs fixing, Canuck jump on my post mentioning that my advice to have the watch looked at would not resolve anything as this is how they all work and reference a different issue all together.

Yes, exactly - he was referring to the current question in the thread, not the original one that was asked a year ago.

Since neither of you specifically addressed which problem you were referring to, why don't we call it a draw between you two and move on?
 
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So I'm guessing that
Canuck said: "this is precisely how every stem winder ever made is designed" is not correct, and a Speedy Pro that doesn't have a stop, is not how every stem winder ever made is designed? therefore send it back for service is the correct advice.

I answered a question re: the CROWN BACKING UP ABOUT 1/6 OF A TURN once the crown is released! Speedmasters do it, as does every manual wind wrist watch ever made. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, jack! What in h_ _ l did you think I was saying? So get off your high horse!
 
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Yes, exactly - he was referring to the current question in the thread, not the original one that was asked a year ago.

Since neither of you specifically addressed which problem you were referring to, why don't we call it a draw between you two and move on?

Sounds like we were at cross purposes on this and I did not follow the thread down to the second problem in the thread.
 
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I answered a question re: the CROWN BACKING UP ABOUT 1/6 OF A TURN once the crown is released! Speedmasters do it, as does every manual wind wrist watch ever made. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, jack! What in h_ _ l did you think I was saying? So get off your high horse!

I think you need to look back at where you quoted me in this thread, I was replying to the original point made by the OP that his watch would not stop winding, (clearly a problem requiring an intervention) I suggested that it should be sent back via the correct channel for repair. Then you quoted me on a completely different subject to say my advice would not rectify the issue, but it now appears that we were at cross purposes in the thread.
 
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Perhaps if you had included a quote referring to the post you were replying to, re: “sending the watch to Omega and let them deal with it”. In my post, I was quite explicit regarding the supposed “problem” I was referring to. The crown backing up. Sami highjacked the thread with a different topic, referring to what seems to have been diagnosed as a broken mainspring. For that, the watch certainly should go to Omega if still covered by a warranty. Let’s say we were both right. D__n, I wish people wouldn’t confuse the issue by highjacking threads.
 
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