Speedmaster gains time upon winding

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Could the added torque during winding increase the amplitude so much that the balance knocks or overbanks (impulse jewel hitting escape lever from behind) momentarily? You could try to listen for it while winding (sudden 'galopping' sound).

I'm assuming you observe this consistently with an app that uses network time and corrects for network delay; I'm not familiar with watchtracker. Watchcheck seems to be ok, when I check it against the time.gov web page/applet.

Unlikely to be rebanking, as that would be sustained for a time if it was happening. This is likely a software issue with the tracking app that the OP is using. I believe the op's statement indicates this is not really a watch issue:

"This doesn't seem to affect its +5 SPD average. I'm just wondering if a time gain from winding is normal - seems odd to me."

So the answer is there really is no gain from winding in this case.

It's not the best place to ask technical questions.

::facepalm1::
 
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Well, maybe someone will come along with a more plausible explanation. Best of luck!
Maybe I have one: it is a Speedmaster so it gains time! If they called it Slowmaster, instead.......
 
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Maybe I have one: it is a Speedmaster so it gains time! If they called it Slowmaster, instead.......

ROTFL.
 
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You guys really know how to make a new forum member and new Omega owner feel welcome.

For those who tried to offer a helpful response to my curiosity, thanks.

To the rest, Canuck, chiswick, I'm gonna go ahead and let you have your little clubhouse to yourself. Doesn't appear to be a place I care to hang out.

DeWayne
I thought your initial query was both well-written and concise, and it was evident to me that you weren’t obsessing about accuracy. It’s a shame that your experience as a new member has not been positive; I too got the impression that a number of the responses were less than helpful. With this in mind, your ‘clubhouse’ observation is both pertinent and disappointing - disappointing because other members may feel less inclined to post their queries for fear of also being ‘set upon’.
 
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I thought your initial query was both well-written and concise, and it was evident to me that you weren’t obsessing about accuracy. It’s a shame that your experience as a new member has not been positive; I too got the impression that a number of the responses were less than helpful. With this in mind, your ‘clubhouse’ observation is both pertinent and disappointing - disappointing because other members may feel less inclined to post their queries for fear of also being ‘set upon’.

We are a friendly group with a touch of banter. 😉

May I ask about the name “Barra King”
 
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How often we get a bad rap from someone when we ask pointed questions about some infinitesimal “defect” in a watch that defies being answered! Like we are Tinker Bell, and all we have to do is flick our magic wand! This thread is now ten months old, and I am certain it should have died a natural death by now. A variation of one second during winding, indeed!

 
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We are a friendly group with a touch of banter. 😉

May I ask about the name “Barra King”
Yes; There’s a general congeniality within the group and a good dose of friendly banter too; however, a peppering of thinly veiled sarcasm also appears from time-to-time masking authoritative ‘don’t backchat me’ advice/abuse which now and then escalates to open attack and/or ridicule. The fairy post above is a case in point. The member is still banging on about the Initial variation issue and missing my point entirely. I’m afraid some people just don’t get it! It’s not what you say or write, it’s how you say/write it that influences others positively or negatively.
As for Barra King, it’s a nickname I picked up along the way in my ongoing pursuit of exclusively targeting barramundi on lures and fly.
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How often we get a bad rap from someone when we ask pointed questions about some infinitesimal “defect” in a watch that defies being answered! Like we are Tinker Bell, and all we have to do is flick our magic wand! This thread is now ten months old, and I am certain it should have died a natural death by now. A variation of one second during winding, indeed!

Here’s a thought old mate! Why don’t you start up a thread on the site where only members who have contributed 2000 posts or above are able to add comment to it. Think of the value in that? You won’t have to endure anymore tedious queries for advice from new or inexperienced members. Maybe you could design a common avatar skin that will allow new members to easily identify you and fellow thread members. I believe the tinker-bell picture above would be a tremendous - and I must say it - obvious choice.
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As for Barra King, it’s a nickname I picked up along the way in my ongoing pursuit of exclusively targeting barramundi on lures and fly.



Chasing big Barra is one of my pursuits aside from watches. Looking at a good run off this year with some good rain already.
What state are you in, if you don’t mind me asking. NT based myself.
 
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Chasing big Barra is one of my pursuits aside from watches. Looking at a good run off this year with some good rain already.
What state are you in, if you don’t mind me asking. NT based myself.
You’re spoilt for choice up that way. I recall flying low over Melville island a number of times a few years ago and marvelling at the countless possibilities that presented in the numerous creeks and estuaries that comprise the system. I used to make a point of fishing the retaining wall in the base at Larrakeyah whenever I was up that way for work, with good success, but I’ve often thought about giving all the well-known, popular spots a shot....particularly Cahills Crossing - just so I can say I did it and dodged the crocs.
As for me I’m a NQ resident. Like you, I’m an avid angler (lures and fly only) and a watch enthusiast which extends to most things horological - cant get enough of Learning about the development of time keeping devices...Just re-read George Daniels’ book on practical watch escapements and managed to make more sense of it second time round.
 
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Hello folks, my first post here.

Recently, I purchased my very first mechanical watch - a Speedmaster moon watch - and have really been enjoying it. I've been using the WatchTracker app to measure its accuracy for the past two weeks and it's been running a reliable +5 SPD, which I'm well pleased with. I wind it every morning upon waking.

My question is this - on at least a couple or three occasions, I've checked the time immediately before and after a full wind, and have been surprised to see the watch gained exactly one second from the wind. This doesn't seem to affect its +5 SPD average. I'm just wondering if a time gain from winding is normal - seems odd to me.

Thanks for any insight. As I say, I'm really enjoying the watch in all respects.

Regards,
DeWayne
I read quickly the thread, and I saw something which looks like my explanation.
It's normal that after winding, a watch has a different cycle time. But it can be quicker... or slower... it depends on the design.
My english is quite poor, so I will only try to give my version...
There is more energy in the mainspring, so more force on the anchor in stopped position (stopped by the escapement wheel), so when the anchor is realeased by the balanced wheel, (*) the anchor is "thrown away" with more speed (or energy) by the escapement wheel (because of this "over" force due to a fresh winding). Then, the balance wheel goes a little bit more "far away" in its "go/back" movement. Then it takes more time to the balance wheel to make its cycle. Then the watch is slower...
Another scenario can happen: at the step (*), the anchor is quicker, the spiral acts sooner, then reverses the balanced wheel sooner, then the cycle time is shorter, then your watch is quicker...
Both bias exist in mechanical watches; the art of the watchmaker is to make a compromise between these 2 effects.

I have also a nice "Slowmaster" ! ( 😀 savio.79).
 
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You’re spoilt for choice up that way. I recall flying low over Melville island a number of times a few years ago and marvelling at the countless possibilities that presented in the numerous creeks and estuaries that comprise the system. I used to make a point of fishing the retaining wall in the base at Larrakeyah whenever I was up that way for work, with good success, but I’ve often thought about giving all the well-known, popular spots a shot....particularly Cahills Crossing - just so I can say I did it and dodged the crocs.
As for me I’m a NQ resident. Like you, I’m an avid angler (lures and fly only) and a watch enthusiast which extends to most things horological - cant get enough of Learning about the development of time keeping devices...Just re-read George Daniels’ book on practical watch escapements and managed to make more sense of it second time round.

Shady Camp is the spot for the big ones
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