Speedmaster calibro 321 Stima e valutazione

EnricoI · Thurs. 2:55am

Translation from Google:

Good morning everyone.
I would like to ask for opinions and an economic evaluation on this watch. It has a serial number of 22 million high but the reference seems to say 1966. From what I know, apart from the bracelet which is obviously much later, it seems that the insert and also the crown have been changed.
Can you kindly give me your opinion and also an economic evaluation. The idea would be to sell it. But I don't know if it's worth trying to fix it or not. Maybe if you give me advice on what work to hypothesize.
Thanks to anyone who wants to intervene.

Buongiorno a tutti.
Vorrei chiedere pareri e una valutazione economica su questo orologio. Ha un seriale 22 milioni alto ma la referenza sembrerebbe dire 1966. Da quanto so a parte il bracciale che logicamente è molto successivo, sembrerebbe sia stato cambiato l'inserto e anche la corona.
Potete cortesemente darmi un vostro parere ed anche una valutazione economica. L'idea sarebbe quella di venderlo. Ma non so se valga la pena cercare di sistemarlo o meno. Magari se mi date consigli su che lavori ipotizzare.
Grazie a chi vorrà intervenire.
Enrico

dsio · Thurs. 3:20am

I've edited to add a translation from Italian to English.

So it looks like this is a Speedmaster 105.003 Cal 321 "Ed White" That was serviced in about the 1990s, probably in Bienne. I say that because the bracelet is a 1990's replacement and the other replacement parts all fit with that time period. Because of how many valuable original parts have been replaced with new service parts, there is very little value left in this watch as a collector piece, it is more just a Speedmaster you can wear and enjoy rather than being a vintage watch at this point.

EnricoI · Thurs. 3:29am

Grazie

hansaboy · Thurs. 6:43am

Erhhh…
It should be a CB 66!
🤗

calalum · Thurs. 10:32am

Not an EW. Look at the case. And lots of issues.

SOG53 · Thurs. 1:52pm

Dial and movement point to EW
Midcase 66 CB. Movement too early for CB
1 pusher replaced with narrow neck service
Bezel and bracelet later service parts
Confusing to me other than just saying it’s franken, who knows how it got to its current state???

masteroftime · Thurs. 1:54pm

The lighting in the photos is really bad…it almost looks like a soleil dial 🤔

dsio · Thurs. 3:20pm

hansaboy
Erhhh…
It should be a CB 66!
🤗

I didn’t even notice that bit initially, it just looked like a rough service case from the top! Yea this has a bit of everything in it

SOG53 · Thurs. 4:49pm

masteroftime
The lighting in the photos is really bad…it almost looks like a soleil dial 🤔

Hopefully we can see more dial photos in natural light as that would certainly change the valuation

140dave · Thurs. 4:53pm

masteroftime
The lighting in the photos is really bad…it almost looks like a soleil dial 🤔

That was my first thought too. Need better pics.

Edit: Pretty sure is. See where the lume sits compared to the step? And the degradation/chipping? Soleil FTW.

EnricoI · Fri. 1:58am

L'orologio ijn queste condizioni è arrivato a seguito di manutenzione eseguita in Omega anni addietro. E' sempre stato di un unico proprietario che, dopo quella revisione, non se ne è presa molta cura. Era praticamente sempre al suo polso. Appena posso metto delle altre foto del quadrante. Grazie a chi è intervenuto.

hansaboy · Fri. 2:41am

E EnricoI
L'orologio ijn queste condizioni è arrivato a seguito di manutenzione eseguita in Omega anni addietro. E' sempre stato di un unico proprietario che, dopo quella revisione, non se ne è presa molta cura. Era praticamente sempre al suo polso. Appena posso metto delle altre foto del quadrante. Grazie a chi è intervenuto.

The watch in this condition arrived after a maintenance performed at Omega years ago. It has always been owned by a single owner who, after that maintenance, did not take much care of it. It was practically always on his wrist. As soon as I can I will post more photos of the dial. Thanks to whoever intervened.

hansaboy · Fri. 2:41am

Ciao, questo è un forum in lingua inglese, quindi se possibile, prova a scrivere in inglese?
Oppure usa Google Translate.
😀

EnricoI · Fri. 3:32am

Aludic · Fri. 4:08am

140dave
That was my first thought too. Need better pics.

Edit: Pretty sure is. See where the lume sits compared to the step? And the degradation/chipping? Soleil FTW.

Agree. This most certainly is a blue/grey soleil dial. Those were believed to be very rare, but I have seen a few of these supposedly rare dials pop up recently. Two in one day, in fact.

This watch in general isn't in a very desirable shape, but the dial, which is very prone to degradation, is definitely better than average. I'd be inclined to say the value of this watch sits almost entirely in the dial alone.

EnricoI · Fri. 4:50am

I will post pictures of the dial early next week

EnricoI · Sat. 2:29am

We started looking and found the repair receipts and above all the original bracelet. From what you can read, the buttons, the crown and the glass have been replaced.
While waiting for the photos of the dial I put these.

Davidt · Sat. 3:09am

That’s not the original bracelet. It’s a late 60’s/early 70’s bracelet for a mk2 Speedmaster.
It’s either for a different watch entirely, or someone fitted it to your Speedmaster in the 70’s as an (incorrect replacement) as they couldn’t find the correct replacement bracelet.

EnricoI · Sat. 3:22am

Non so cosa dirti. È stato trovato insieme ai documenti delle riparazioni fatte nel tempo

amikoyan · Sat. 3:34am

E EnricoI
Non so cosa dirti. È stato trovato insieme ai documenti delle riparazioni fatte nel tempo

I don't know what to tell you. It was found along with the documents of the repairs done over time.