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Speedmaster Bezel 145.022

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Hello everyone. The watch pictured below is a very sentimental Speedy I’ve had for years. It’s being restored as we speak. I’m aware that the bezel isn’t correct for a ‘79 Speedy. I’m pretty sure I need the No Accent version. Can I tell if the one on the watch is an original Speedy bezel just from a later watch? is sourcing an original is even worth the effort? I’m seeing some very high prices for supposedly original ones. Is there a reputable source for these where I can be assured it’s original and the correct bezel? Just looking for any advice.

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SOG53
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You will need to open watch for ref number inside Caseback, and movement serial number to confirm what you have. 145.022-74 and 145.022-78 were produced in 1979, and if you have one of those you are correct, the bezel would not have the wide C or the accent which were on watches from the 80s.
There is no 145.022-79 BTW.
 
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You will need to open watch for ref number inside Caseback, and movement serial number to confirm what you have. 145.022-74 and 145.022-78 were produced in 1979, and if you have one of those you are correct, the bezel would not have the wide C or the accent which were on watches from the 80s.
There is no 145.022-79 BTW.
How would I find those numbers? Here’s a close up of the inside of the caseback. The serial number of the watch is 44821*** which I think is 1980 not 1979.
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You have found the data . Consulting MWO and ilovemyspeedmaster.com suggests:

1. movement SN from Oct 1980 and correct for either 145.022-78, or 145.0022 80s.

2. The Caseback with dual reference and bezel is from later PIC 3590.50 version manufactured from 1988-1996.

So it seems that you have an earlier movement transplanted into a later case, sometime during a service. Not uncommon. I would just enjoy it as it stands I don’t think you will improve the watch by trying to change it now.
 
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SOG53 SOG53
You have found the data . Consulting MWO and ilovemyspeedmaster.com suggests:

1. movement SN from Oct 1980 and correct for either 145.022-78, or 145.0022 80s.

2. The Caseback with dual reference and bezel is from later PIC 3590.50 version manufactured from 1988-1996.

So it seems that you have an earlier movement transplanted into a later case, sometime during a service. Not uncommon. I would just enjoy it as it stands I don’t think you will improve the watch by trying to change it now.
Thanks so much for that information! I guess this may be why the watch was so cheap. I got it for $1200. So, I guess even if it’s mismatched it wasn’t a bad deal. Like I said, it has sentimental value, and that’s why I had it restored. I’ll have to post some before and after pics later. I guess I’ll just leave the bezel as is and not worry about it now.
 
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Good price I think. The late 80s- 90s watches with tritium are sought after and often go for 3x that price. The earlier movement is really not that big deal IMO as these are generally considered wearable , rather than collectible.
 
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Good plan just to leave the watch as-is. It's a totally wearable example, and there's really no plausible reason to restore it with circa-1980 parts.
 
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Good price I think. The late 80s- 90s watches with tritium are sought after and often go for 3x that price. The earlier movement is really not that big deal IMO as these are generally considered wearable , rather than collectible.
Thanks for the insight. I’m not sure if the dial came from the 1980 movement or the later case. I may never know. I do know it came with a 1171 bracelet.
 
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Good plan just to leave the watch as-is. It's a totally wearable example, and there's really no plausible reason to restore it with circa-1980 parts.
Agreed. The only reason I had the case laser welded and restored is because it had been overpolished to a terrible extent. I’ll never sell it anyway due to the sentimental value. Thanks for responding!!
 
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SOG53 SOG53
You will need to open watch for ref number inside Caseback, and movement serial number to confirm what you have. 145.022-74 and 145.022-78 were produced in 1979, and if you have one of those you are correct, the bezel would not have the wide C or the accent which were on watches from the 80s.
There is no 145.022-79 BTW.
the 145.022-74 was produced in 1979? Are you sure about that?
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the 145.022-74 was produced in 1979? Are you sure about that?
My mistake. I meant 145.022-76 which MWO says can go to 1979, or 145.022-78. Thanks for pointing it out.
 
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