Speedmaster 50th Anni and a slight wobble.

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I'm not sure what your post has to do with someone buying or selling a wristwatch and making a profit. Omega does it every day, about 800,000 times a year, why is it wrong for a buyer to do the same? There was another article in today's WSJ about a jeweler in FL who makes 18k gold holders for JUUL e-cigarettes. For $5,000 dollars you can be the coolest guy or gal in your social circle. And they have sold 15 of them so far. Capitalism brings out all kinds of players, some scumbags and bottom-feeders for sure, but also people like the jeweler who comes up with a silly holder for $5,000. Some would say he is ripping off the buyers, but no one is forcing anyone to buy his product. Just like no one has to sell to real estate speculators or so-called slimeballs after a national disaster. Capitalism is messy, always has been. You can put up all the guardrails or speed bumps you want to try to control the markets, but the best way to control it is to educate people about money and their personal finances, unfortunately we don't do that.
I've never entirely understood the whole giant backlash on here toward anyone who flips something for profit. I'm not a flipper of watches, but I'm not going to sit here and act like someone who gets their hands on an in-demand model and sells it for a gain is some kind of dbag. It's comical.
 
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I've never entirely understood the whole giant backlash on here toward anyone who flips something for profit. I'm not a flipper of watches, but I'm not going to sit here and act like someone who gets their hands on an in-demand model and sells it for a gain is some kind of dbag. It's comical.

Exactly but this idiot stuffler banged on and on about how I apparently 'pumped' up this watch just because I said how amazing it was prior to selling it. Just goes to show how vicious people can be here unfortunately and now he's flipping he doesn't want it back. He went on at me so much I had people DM'ing me apologising for his insane stalker like abuse luckily i've got thick skin and just tell trolls like this to do one but someone else may have taken that quite differently
 
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I'm not sure what your post has to do with someone buying or selling a wristwatch and making a profit. Omega does it every day, about 800,000 times a year, why is it wrong for a buyer to do the same? There was another article in today's WSJ about a jeweler in FL who makes 18k gold holders for JUUL e-cigarettes. For $5,000 dollars you can be the coolest guy or gal in your social circle. And they have sold 15 of them so far. Capitalism brings out all kinds of players, some scumbags and bottom-feeders for sure, but also people like the jeweler who comes up with a silly holder for $5,000. Some would say he is ripping off the buyers, but no one is forcing anyone to buy his product. Just like no one has to sell to real estate speculators or so-called slimeballs after a national disaster. Capitalism is messy, always has been. You can put up all the guardrails or speed bumps you want to try to control the markets, but the best way to control it is to educate people about money and their personal finances, unfortunately we don't do that.
The over-arching theme is greed. Sub-themes are profiteering (which is different from making a profit), and flipping (taking something off the market with no intention of using it). Flipping one watch is obviously not the same as buying up flooded property for pennies on the dollar, but the principles are the same. If you doubt this, go to your Rolex AD and ask to buy a stainless Sub/GMT/Daytona at MSRP. Flippers have completely upended that market--and are making obscene profits.
 
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I understand the principle for sure, and I do also understand why some people are bothered by it, but it often draws way too much venom and more on this site. Just my opinion.
Don't want to hijack the thread and it's a rabbit hole with no end, this discussion. But briefly, I blame the manufacturers far more than I blame the flippers. Flippers haven't brought chaos to the Rolex market, Rolex has. Or at least has hugely contributed to it. And it's clear that the company loves the situation it's created, or helped to create.
I'm a big sneakerhead. During the past decade-plus, the same thing has applied to certain sneakers. Nike finally cut into that market significantly by producing more product and raising prices slightly to reduce the margins involved for resellers. And by making certain previously hard-to-come-by shoes far more available to more people, it put an end to, or at least a big damper on, a Rolex-like situation. It doesn't matter if we're talking about $10K watches or $220 shoes, the same rules apply in a free market. But anyway.
 
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Had to read some comments here at least twice. IMHO there are far too many people getting part of their daily income via participating in such like OF chats/threads.
 
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Very sad to see the attitudes on this forum. One hopes a community is about supporting each other not profiting off each other or tearing each other down.
 
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Had to read some comments here at least twice. IMHO there are far too many people getting part of their daily income via participating in such like OF chats/threads.

I feel sorry for the people that actually need to do that to get by or just make some difference in their financial situation. Maybe they should reevaluate their life and what they want from it and try to do something productive and add value in what they do.

Reminds me of the people that went to Star Wars land at Disney to steal the sporks to resell on Ebay. Pretty sad. It ended up ruining it (the experience) for the rest of park visitors.
 
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I feel sorry for the people that actually need to do that to get by or just make some difference in their financial situation. Maybe they should reevaluate their life and what they want from it and try to do something productive and add value in what they do.

Reminds me of the people that went to Star Wars land at Disney to steal the sporks to resell on Ebay. Pretty sad. It ended up ruining it (the experience) for the rest of park visitors.

That's odd, I feel sorry for anyone who goes to Disneyland in the first place. But it looks like on here there are some who would complain about bald kids jumping the queue at Disney.
 
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Finally saw them in the flesh, still waiting for mine

The all gold version is very flash, but also out of my price range.
 
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The all gold version is very flash, but also out of my price range.
I am thinking about the gold piece (while I wait for the 50th astronaut’s badass model) .. but I also have a gold speedy . “When gold does more than glitters” - phrase then from omega advert some 30 + years ago on the golden bridge speedy.. Dilemma to do or not to do ( not unlike you)
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I'm not sure what your post has to do with someone buying or selling a wristwatch and making a profit. Omega does it every day, about 800,000 times a year, why is it wrong for a buyer to do the same? There was another article in today's WSJ about a jeweler in FL who makes 18k gold holders for JUUL e-cigarettes. For $5,000 dollars you can be the coolest guy or gal in your social circle. And they have sold 15 of them so far. Capitalism brings out all kinds of players, some scumbags and bottom-feeders for sure, but also people like the jeweler who comes up with a silly holder for $5,000. Some would say he is ripping off the buyers, but no one is forcing anyone to buy his product. Just like no one has to sell to real estate speculators or so-called slimeballs after a national disaster. Capitalism is messy, always has been. You can put up all the guardrails or speed bumps you want to try to control the markets, but the best way to control it is to educate people about money and their personal finances, unfortunately we don't do that.

There's nothing wrong with people selling their watches and flippers. But there is some behaviour that is quite contrary to the spirit of a forum where people try to share and gain experience and knowledge. This behaviour is exposed when someone's actions turn out to be totally different from her/his comments (like selling after making a lot of publicity that this is a fantastic watch or the best watch in decades...) How can you trust this person any longer when you are going to seek for advice? Will she/he tell you what's in your best interest or in her/his best interest? And so on... Anyway, it's time to move on I believe...
 
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There's nothing wrong with people selling their watches and flippers. But there is some behaviour that is quite contrary to the spirit of a forum where people try to share and gain experience and knowledge. This behaviour is exposed when someone's actions turn out to be totally different from her/his comments (like selling after making a lot of publicity that this is a fantastic watch or the best watch in decades...) How can you trust this person any longer when you are going to seek for advice? Will she/he tell you what's in your best interest or in her/his best interest? And so on... Anyway, it's time to move on I believe...

Spot on, some lack the basic integrity that is required to build trust and run to the mods whenever their modus operandi is exposed and questioned.
 
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Spot on, some lack the basic integrity that is required to build trust and run to the mods whenever their modus operandi is exposed and questioned.

your modus operandi is being a double standards nasty piece of work that all can see now

anyone else you want to tell to take their stickers off as you wait for a courier to collect yours you weirdo?
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your modus operandi is being a double standards nasty piece of work that all can see now

anyone else you want to tell to take their stickers off as you wait for a courier to collect yours you weirdo?

You seem to be living a charmed life on this forum these days, hurling insults at anyone who questions your motives or methods.
Hopefully your days will be numbered as the behaviour and attitude leave a lot to be desired.
 
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Letting this cool for a while as the replies on all sides of the issues have gotten way from the the spirit and goals of the Forum