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  1. Abc

    Abc Nov 26, 2017

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    i have this Speedmaster from 1963. It seems that the mechanism has been damaged by water.
    Is it worth restoring it or better keeping it as it is?
    Thanks
     
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  2. Toishome

    Toishome Nov 26, 2017

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  3. calalum

    calalum Nov 26, 2017

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    Don’t think it is from 1963.
     
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  4. Abc

    Abc Nov 26, 2017

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    What year would it be than?
     
  5. Foo2rama

    Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Nov 26, 2017

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    Might be a 63, not sure when the tall pushers came in. Or service tall pushers. Narrow T so it’s a 105.012.

    Need serial and movement shot to confirm.
     
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  6. Davidt

    Davidt Nov 26, 2017

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    100% it's worth restoring the movement and cleaning the case but do not polish it or replace any cosmetic parts (although the hour/minute hands appear new?).
    This is a lovely, valuable watch, that needs a sympathetic service. Take your time to research a good watchmaker.
    Where are you located.
     
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  7. Abc

    Abc Nov 26, 2017

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    Thanks. We are in Switzerland
     
  8. Abc

    Abc Nov 26, 2017

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    Yes, it 105 012
     
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  9. Abc

    Abc Nov 26, 2017

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    Yes, it 105 012
     
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  10. acme

    acme Nov 26, 2017

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    Where?
     
  11. STANDY

    STANDY schizophrenic pizza orderer and watch collector Nov 26, 2017

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    That's a bit of 321 work needed. @Archer may be able to advise as parts are not easy

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  12. Foo2rama

    Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Nov 26, 2017

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    The 63 has a unique bridge also right?
     
  13. watchyouwant

    watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Nov 26, 2017

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    that is a LOT OF WORK...... years ago that would be a write off. now it is worth restoring. beeing in switzerland, with a few parts taken off the factory might be the best place for all the parts needed...... you need a lot of time and mucho $$$$ dollares as well......good luck. kind regards. achim
     
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  14. smitty190373

    smitty190373 Nov 26, 2017

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    Try and get it restored, by someone who knows what they're doing! Here is an example of what can be done, pictures courtesy of Speedmaster101

    The work was done by Simon Freese watchmakers, who many of us use in the UK. Here is the original post. Pretty impressive as always.

    http://speedmaster101.com/2017/08/



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  15. gemini4

    gemini4 Hoarder Of Speed Nov 26, 2017

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    Asymmetrical Bridge is correct, I think
     
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  16. watchtinker

    watchtinker Nov 26, 2017

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    The movement, including the hairspring, seems rusted out. Unfortunately, the best place for a restoration is Bienne.
     
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  17. Stuie

    Stuie Nov 26, 2017

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    For a 105.012 I believe it has been accepted that either the symmetrical or asymmetrical is correct for a -63

    http://speedmaster101.com/105-012/
    The -63 also caries the “symmetrical” clutch bridge, where as subsequent 105.012’s have the asymmetrical bridge that all later 321s carry.

    Note as of September 2017: I have now seen a few 105.012-63 with an asymmetric bridge. I think I have to accept that either is correct. From a collectors point of view, the symmetric bridge is more interesting, but I would doubt it would affect the value.

    Examples - (Note that the later serial has the earlier bridge suggesting Omega was just using up parts during movement assembly)
    MWO - The A2 321 movement was a transitional piece

    105.012-63 serial 20520xxxx - with asymmetrical bridge
    (ACP watches should be within 20,520,740 and 20,520,839)
    http://www.speedywatches.com/omega-speedmaster-professional-c-p-105-012-63/

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    105.012-63 serial 20520861 - with symmetrical bridge
    http://www.db1983.com/our-archive/omega-speedmaster-105012-63-1964

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  18. smitty190373

    smitty190373 Nov 26, 2017

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    It is if he wants a new dial, hands, pushers, bezel and a case polish too.
     
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  19. EdtheAussie

    EdtheAussie Nov 26, 2017

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    I'd much rather save it from that fate!
     
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  20. Larry S

    Larry S Color Commentator for the Hyperbole. Nov 26, 2017

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    Go to Speedmaster 101 for valuation but there’s plenty of upside to spending on a movement restoration. Won’t be cheap.
     
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