Speedmaster 145.022 Questions

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Hi all,

Thank you for your comments. The seller promised me that I was the first one to buy the watch. After my initial phone call I stayed in touch with him every day. He had over 50 replies on his ad, and well… got a bit confused as he sold it to someone else.

The watch dates back to 1986. In line with Aludic’s observation, it was indeed a 1447 bracelet with 805 endlinks. I have included some pictures of the movement and bracelet, which the seller sent me after the watch was already sold.

The watch + bracelet were sold for €4250 / $4,800. I would have definitely bought the watch at that price. Even with the broken clasp (which would have been a pain to replace though) and scratched plexi.
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Not an 1171. An 1171 would have a clasp with the Omega logo set inside a trapezoid.

Not necessarily, the 1171 also exists without a trapezoid shape surrounding the Omega logo.

Back on topic; this is neither an 1171, nor a 1479. As mentioned above, I am sure this is a 1447 / 805. Very rare, quite desirable IMHO and as @Jorisvp pointed out, with a challenge to its new owner with regards to finding a replacement to the broken clasp part...
 
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I have no idea why someone would pay nearly $5k for that watch, silly price IMO. Perhaps they put a lot of value on that particular bracelet, but it's not special to me even if it is rare.
 
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I have no idea why someone would pay nearly $5k for that watch, silly price IMO. Perhaps they put a lot of value on that particular bracelet, but it's not special to me even if it is rare.

Screen shot from @Spacefruit ....from Dec 2021 auction. $104k for an Ed White. I'm actually wearing my Ed White today. And I would definitely sell it for $100k.

 
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Yes, it seems like the seller of the OP watch did a good job of hyping it, telling all the right stories ... stored 20 years in a drawer, 50 offers, etc. But it is a common 80s Speedmaster, nothing special. Except perhaps for the bracelet, which does not excite me.
 
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Blue or red dot is Omega equivalent to Rolex hologram - its presence does not warrants any extra value. On the contrary - it means that watch wasn't serviced for decades. So yeah, it's a good start to bring up $750 service cost during negotiations 😀

Blue and red dots were discontinued in 2015, so a blue dot could mean it was serviced in the first half of 2015.
 
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The seller promised me that I was the first one to buy the watch. After my initial phone call I stayed in touch with him every day. He had over 50 replies on his ad, and well… got a bit confused as he sold it to someone else.

I am sorry for you to hear that
 
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Hi all,

Next week I will meet a person that is selling his 'forgotten' Speedmaster. He bought it second handed 27 years ago and had it stored in a drawer for 20 years. He had totally forgotten about the watch, but remembered he had it when he saw a modern Speedy at a shop. He even told me that his wife had almost thrown the watch away...

The watch looks unpolished and the lume has aged attractively. This is also the main reason I am interested in the watch. The condition of the dial is hard to assess, as the plexi has many scratches. The watch runs good, but obviously needs a service. The clasp of the bracelet broke down 20 years ago, which is also the reason he put the watch away. It also looks like the bracelet needs new springs.

I was wondering if I could get help on the following questions:
-My guess is that it is a 145.022 76: domed dial, short "S" Is my assessment correct?
-The seller thinks that the blue seal on the caseback gives the watch extra value. I doubt it makes much of a difference. What do you think?
-All visible parts look original to me. Is my assessment correct?
-What is the value of the bracelet?

And my final question: what is a reasonable price for the watch, given that it needs a service and a new plexi. I know it is hard to tell without better pictures of the watch and movement. However, the seller is meeting a specialist in vintage watches next Tuesday and I want to be informed well before entering in negotiations. Based on Speedmaster 101 assessment guide and price chart, I would assess the watch - assuming the movement is ok - between good and very good (i.e. $ 3,500 / € 3,085 - $ 4,500 / € 3,966 without bracelet).

Many thanks!


Pictures of the watch:

Hi ,
I bought this Speedy last week . It’s a 1986/87 145.022
Had it serviced right a way no issues just standard service . Polished the plexiglass and looks stunning now . It’s indeed a 1477 / 808 bracelet which is time correct . The inside of the clasp was broken the clasp itself is intact .So I installed a aftermarket inner clasp
I had a 1980s box and the extract is underway
 
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Hi ,
I bought this Speedy last week . It’s a 1986/87 145.022
Had it serviced right a way no issues just standard service . Polished the plexiglass and looks stunning now . It’s indeed a 1477 / 805 bracelet which is time correct . The inside of the clasp was broken the clasp itself is intact .So I installed a aftermarket inner clasp
I had a 1980s box and the extract is underway