Speedmaster 145.012-67 HF or CB

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Fatcat

·Nov 9, 2020

Hi Forum

i jumped in a new project as I was able to buy a very nice 321 , with a perfect case and nice dial , but I am unable to say if this is a HF or a CB case as I will need to find the correct case back .

if any one with better eyes than me appreciate to know it

by the way before I got responses about the hand , this is a post Ultraman speedway 1 of 1 😀))))))

paul

 

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athom

·Nov 9, 2020

Is not CB only for 105.012-66?

 

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321Only

·Nov 9, 2020

Me vote for a HF case. Looks like the dial lost its lume?

 

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Dan S

·Nov 9, 2020

You seem to think this is a 105.012-66 if you are worried about HF or CB, but you say that it's a 145.012-67. How do you know? You should show good photos of the case from the side and back (showing the case profile and pushers), and give some serial number info. If the watch is put together from parts, it's not just the case you should be concerned about, but the movement and dial as well.

BTW, more photos would be necessary, but at first glance the dial looks washed and it's hard to judge the condition of the case, so you need to be smart about how much to invest. Especially if the parts don't match.

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jaegodylan

·Nov 9, 2020

Looks cool though! Congrats on the project and the reward!

 

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Fatcat

·Nov 9, 2020

I Dan i assume 67 to the serial but possible that is a 66, here is pics form the case and the movement , already waiting the extract, the watch comes form a retired Omega watchmaker employé since 1990, and offered to one of this kid that offered to to his kid that decide it to sell .

The serial points to 67

The lime is where , is not a washed dial for shure extremely consistent but really clear

 

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Dan S

·Nov 9, 2020

One of the pushers is fat, which definitely points towards 105.012. It's possible to identify the case-maker from the side profile. It would take a lot of work for me comparing to known profiles, but some people can probably tell just with a glance.

 

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Fatcat

·Nov 9, 2020

Thanks Dan, yes i know with pictures is difficult to say witch one is the correct case manufacturer.

Let see the votes 😀)))

 

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Davidt

·Nov 9, 2020

It's not a CB case.

You can tell by the lack of a facet on the underside of the lug tips.

 

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Fatcat

·Nov 9, 2020

Thanks , I have to look at the HF case back now.

paul

 

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Dan S

·Nov 9, 2020

Fatcat

Thanks , I have to look at the HF case back now.

If you have a CB case-back, you might be able to do a trade. Just look for someone with a CB case and an HF case-back. 😉

 

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Marsimaxam

·Nov 10, 2020

Definitely a HF case back as Davidt pointed out. See image, the CB case is on the left, and the HF case is on the right, note the larger facets at base of lugs.

 

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Fatcat

·Nov 10, 2020

Cool many thanks now pretty clear HF , let start the hunt

 

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Fatcat

·Nov 10, 2020

Just zooooming on the dial not washed , thin tritium they still have a yellow patina

what you think ?

 

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ortope

·Nov 10, 2020

For sure not a CB case.
This is my 105.012 CB from 1966
Note the typical facets on the lugs

 

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Fatcat

·Nov 11, 2020

This time I see clearly theses facets many thanks

 

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Davidt

·Nov 11, 2020

Whilst the facets on the top/front of the lugs are the obvious way to identify a CB case, these are occasionally lost through polishing. The facet on the underside of the lugs and the 'banana' like side profile is much less likely to be altered.