Hello, sorry about no pictures in this tread, but i would like to know about a Omega Speedmaster Pro 105.012 -66 from 1966 cal 321 Pre-moon the case and dial is very nice condition movement very clean and good bracelet , not orginal, but changed to original one hands are shifted but same as original, looks nice, but not orginal of course. bezel is changed , i dont know if it match year of watch, no dot over 90. The dot is to the right. how much could it be worth? And is it ok to buy when bezel and hands are not original? Is it a ok modell compared to others 321? Thank you. /Christopher
From my experience on these very knowledgeable and honest forum experts, I can safely say that; "No Pics - No Opinions"!
Ok, let me rephrase my question: is this a watch to consider or better to look for a 100% all orgnal parts? hands ofthe change right?
Retail on a nice 105.012-66 on a 1039 bracelet (full length and 10 functioning expanding links) without the original hands and wrong bezel is around $4k USD. Add a few hundred for the right bezel and hands. Add another $500 or so if it's in a Centrale Boîtes case (instead of Huguenin Freres), and the facets on the lugs are clearly defined. That's my observation from watching the market for several months now. The HF case is not as favored as a CB case. The CB case is very desirable if the case hasn't been polished and the facets are clear. I think the original nice CB cases will command a bigger premium in the near future, and yes I have one. And no it's not for sale...
Ok, so it is a ok buy you think? Should the dot be over 90 on this or beside? if i would start with a 321 is this a good start? i have a 861 from 1974 that is used a lot that i like but would like to upgrade...
Ok, so it is a ok buy you think? Should the dot be over 90 on this or beside? if i would start with a 321 is this a good start? i have a 861 from 1974 that is used a lot that i like but would like to upgrade...
Honestly anything I say without seeing it will be useless. TE's comments above are as good info as you can get without photos
How polished / smooth the lugs are, the state of the tritium lume, the shade of black/brown of the dial, whether it has the right pushers, which hands it has and whether they've been relumed or repainted, which revision of 105.012-66 it is, whether the serial number matches the case date range, and condition of the movement are all major factors. 321 Speedmaster values have a lot more variables than most models and pictures really are necessary for anyone to form opinions on that.
Would need to know the price for starters to advise whether or not it is an ok buy. Also, you must know your seller. Do they disappear once they take your money and find out there are problems with the watch they didn't disclose? There should be a dot over 90 on this one. I have been searching for such a bezel, and I'm convinced they are only found on watches. And I'm not one to mix and match parts, so getting a nice DON bezel will take much time and probably money. With the info you have provided, I would not buy it. No pics, no price, too many unanswered questions. But perhaps we have provided enough info that you feel comfortable with the sale from info you have that you're not sharing. Good luck.
and if this hunt still on, you should request photos as most sellers (well, all I've come across) would provide you decent photos
