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Some thoughts on the Omega Constellation ultra-thin 712 chronometers

  1. lindo Feb 25, 2020

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    Last year whilst trawling through Desmond Guilfoyle’s Omega Constellation Collectors blogspot (http://omega-constellation-collectors.blogspot.com/), I came across his short essay on the ultra-thin calibres 700-712.

    I was intrigued. My Constellation collection contained the usual 500-751 examples, all of which I enjoyed and occasionally added to or upgraded, but I had not given much thought to the ultra-thins, perhaps dismissing them too quickly as pretty dress watches.

    Desmond’s essay pointed out that there was more to them than met the eye: in particular, the calibre 712. It intrigued me that a 3mm thick automatic movement could be produced that was chronometer certified. I knew there were thinner manual chronometer movements, but this was automatic.

    So I started looking. And as any collector knows, once you start looking inevitably you will find something that you just have to buy.

    There seemed to be more examples offered by Japanese vintage watch dealers than elsewhere, which indicated that they may have been more popular in Japan in the 1960s and 70s than in other countries.

    Nice examples were considerably cheaper than their larger contemporary Constellation cousins. I found two that were in exceptional condition, and offer them here for your consideration. Fortunately neither watch has suffered from polishing, so you see them pretty much as they came from the factory.

    The first is a gold capped Constellation automatic ultra-slim chronometer, calibre 712 movement, serial number indicating manufacture in 1966. Gold bezel, original flat topped Omega acrylic crystal, fine black hands, onyx inlaid gold hour markers, and a nice crisp gold observatory on the back.

    The 33mm stainless steel screw back case is numbered SF167.027.

    Unlike most of the 712s I found, it has a centre sweep seconds hand. Desmond noted that although the movements included provision for a sweep seconds hand, for stylistic reasons many of the dress 712s did not have them.
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    The second 712 I could not resist was a Constellation in 18k solid yellow gold, serial number indicating manufacture in 1968.

    It has a solid gold dial (indicated by OM each side of Swiss Made), and a 34.5mm case numbered 157.0001. In the interests of making the watch as thin as possible, Omega fitted a sapphire crystal and made the case a spring back rather than screw back. This means its total thickness is only 7.2mm. The total thickness of the first watch is 8.7mm, the difference being due to the thicker acrylic crystal.

    For comparison, my 1959 14381 pie pan in stainless steel measures 11.3mm total thickness.
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    (Yup I know it is dirty - since been cleaned up but my camera is out of action.)

    I think the 712 series is more than just a pretty face. In fact if you are serious about collecting examples of vintage Constellations I suggest you need to have at least one 712 in your line up. The best news is that they are not as expensive (yet) as their thicker big brothers.

    I am grateful to Desmond (mondodec in this Forum) for getting me interested.
     
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  2. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Feb 25, 2020

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    I really like these. I’ve only got one, but I’d be happy to have more! Dibs!

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  3. CanberraOmega Rabbitohs and Whisky Supporter Feb 25, 2020

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  4. lindo Feb 25, 2020

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    Another nice example of really clean 60s design that could be marketed just as well today: truly timeless.
     
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  5. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Feb 26, 2020

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    What a coincidence!
    I just bought one from Japan, too.
    It is on the way and I am supposed to have it tomorrow.
    My watchmaker told me this movement has a fragile cannon pinion and easy to get loose, hard to fix.
    Well, but I bought it because the price is not high and it also comes with a 18k buckle.
    Here are some pics from the seller .


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  6. Theluglife Feb 26, 2020

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    Wow, great examples. Just saw the Omega Enthusiast video on these 700 calibers and bam! Stunning examples here in OF. Thanks for sharing.
     
  7. Spruce Sunburst dial fan Feb 26, 2020

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    Great to see that my late 1960s Geneve shaped 165.041 & 166.041 case styles are now coming back into fashion.
     
  8. Graemega Feb 26, 2020

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    What’s the going rate for these? I’m in the market for a dress watch, and this could be a good option.
     
  9. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Feb 26, 2020

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    1/2 of dog leg lugs
     
  10. lindo Feb 26, 2020

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    Try an eBay search 'Omega Constellation Cal 712'. The prices range enormously but there is good hunting at the low end: those asking the high prices appear to live on another planet.
     
  11. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Feb 28, 2020

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    My 712 is home with her siblings

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  12. Woodward Mar 1, 2020

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    I used to own this gold-capped 167.0021 from 1971. Beautiful little watch. I sold it a couple of years ago.
    It had a damaged hairspring when I bought it, so I had to source a new balance for it. That made me buy a complete cal. 712 from a watchmaker in Poland, and the balance was taken from that. After a complete service, the movement ran perfectly.

    Regards.
    Woodward

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  13. Samir Mar 5, 2020

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    Here's mine. Love it. IMG_20171028_134757.jpg IMG_20171028_134717.jpg _20171026_115245.jpg