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GordanDaniel
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Hello Gang.
I recently let go of a stainless 168.015 constellation and almost instantly came across this 168.015 in 14k solid gold.
It has a price tag of $800 CAD, which is a few hundred less than the stainless version went for.
It has a cal. 564 and is said to be running well though, the service history is unknown, therefor, it will need one.

I know these are of the less desirable cases when it comes to connie collectors however, the price seems good and i wanted to get some other view points.

To me, the dial looks good and the case looks slightly polished. It was the crown that sort of made me wonder if it was a replacement. It looks different from the one my stainless version had. from different angles it looks like it was more robust, but from others, it looked original.

So, im wondering, what do the members of OF think of this version, does it seem reasonable with an $800 CAD price tag.
The bracelet it is on in the photo is not included.
Sorry for the photos, thats what was supplied to me.
Thank you all.

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TexOmega
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If someone wants me to hand over a grand, I'd want pictures I could use to evaluate.

it is linen dial and golden in color, that's about all I'm positive about
 
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I can’t tell much from these pictures. Also, I’ve never seen one of this reference in solid 14K gold. Are you sure this is solid gold and not gold capped? The solid gold versions have a different pattern of stars around the observatory.

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It is possible that the crown is a service replacement, but the crowns for this reference do not fit any other Omega case.

http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=\]ZETETNXq

If the box is included, and the solid gold content checks out, this is an absolute steal for US$612 at current exchange rates. Even more if local GST is included.

Good luck with purchase.
gatorcpa
 
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
I can’t tell much from these pictures. Also, I’ve never seen one of this reference in solid 14K gold. Are you sure this is solid gold and not gold capped? The solid gold versions have a different pattern of stars around the observatory.

upload_2020-11-11_15-41-4.jpeg


It is possible that the crown is a service replacement, but the crowns for this reference do not fit any other Omega case.

http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=\]ZETETNXq

If the box is included, and the solid gold content checks out, this is an absolute steal for US$612 at current exchange rates. Even more if local GST is included.

Good luck with purchase.
gatorcpa

I was wondering that my self, no hallmark or stamp is visible.
Yes the box is included.
I am really only interested if it were to be solid gold.

Thank you for your advice
 
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TexOmega TexOmega
If someone wants me to hand over a grand, I'd want pictures I could use to evaluate.

it is linen dial and golden in color, that's about all I'm positive about

I completely agree, i asked for better photos. this is what he sent me. . when i think about "buying the buyer" as i have been told before, this doesnt feel quite right.
 
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
I can’t tell much from these pictures. Also, I’ve never seen one of this reference in solid 14K gold. Are you sure this is solid gold and not gold capped? The solid gold versions have a different pattern of stars around the observatory.

upload_2020-11-11_15-41-4.jpeg


It is possible that the crown is a service replacement, but the crowns for this reference do not fit any other Omega case.

http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=\]ZETETNXq

If the box is included, and the solid gold content checks out, this is an absolute steal for US$612 at current exchange rates. Even more if local GST is included.

Good luck with purchase.
gatorcpa


Update:
The store owner says he absolutely guarantees that "it is solid gold, not capped, not plated".
Not that, that really means much i guess.
 
GordanDaniel
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
I can’t tell much from these pictures. Also, I’ve never seen one of this reference in solid 14K gold. Are you sure this is solid gold and not gold capped? The solid gold versions have a different pattern of stars around the observatory.

upload_2020-11-11_15-41-4.jpeg


It is possible that the crown is a service replacement, but the crowns for this reference do not fit any other Omega case.

http://cgi.julesborel.com/cgi-bin/matcgi2?ref=\]ZETETNXq

If the box is included, and the solid gold content checks out, this is an absolute steal for US$612 at current exchange rates. Even more if local GST is included.

Good luck with purchase.
gatorcpa

This example online is being sold as solid "18K" and i see no hallmarks on the case back.
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I would assume the gold capped 168.015 cases would look like this ? with a SS case backing ?


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I think you have to decide whether the seller's guarantee of "solid gold" is good enough for you. Personally, if so, that would do it for me, proper crown or not and notwithstanding the need for service.

Without a usable dial picture, still a bit of a crapshoot.
 
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GordanDaniel GordanDaniel
This example online is being sold as solid "18K" and i see no hallmarks on the case back.
Screen Shot 2020-11-11 at 4.47.23 PM.png


I would assume the gold capped 168.015 cases would look like this ? with a SS case backing ?


Screen Shot 2020-11-11 at 4.45.51 PM.png


depending on the ref, and era, it is whether the observatory has bricks or not. then confirm inside.

but some countries required an outside stamp to indicate solid gold.
 
gatorcpa
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TexOmega TexOmega
depending on the ref, and era, it is whether the observatory has bricks or not. then confirm inside.
None of these have bricks on the observatory.

What gave me pause is that you cannot see the reference number on the outside of the case. The engraving on the solid gold models is quite deep, while on the steel ones it is much shallower.

It could just be the lousy pictures. If you can get a return privilege and get your watchmaker to check it out, then probably worth the gamble.

It’s just so tough to say what this is without clear pictures. I think the dial is a legit variation.

Hope this helps,
gatorcpa
 
GordanDaniel
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
None of these have bricks on the observatory.

What gave me pause is that you cannot see the reference number on the outside of the case. The engraving on the solid gold models is quite deep, while on the steel ones it is much shallower.

It could just be the lousy pictures. If you can get a return privilege and get your watchmaker to check it out, then probably worth the gamble.

It’s just so tough to say what this is without clear pictures. I think the dial is a legit variation.

Hope this helps,
gatorcpa


I know this isnt any better, but gets a slightly closer look.
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GordanDaniel
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As long as the store guarantees it as gold, i am going to buy it. Calling them back today.
Thanks all.
 
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
I can’t tell much from these pictures. Also, I’ve never seen one of this reference in solid 14K gold. Are you sure this is solid gold and not gold capped?

Just FYI - this reference came in various materials:

18k 2N yellow gold

18k 3N yellow gold

18k white gold

14k yellow gold

14k yellow gold capped

14k pink gold capped

Stainless steel
 
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Hey Arch,
What's difference between 2N and 3N?

It's the colour of the gold...

0N - green
1N - pale yellow
2N - light yellow
3N - yellow
4N - pink
5N red

This follows EN/ISO standards for the colours and composition of gold.
 
gatorcpa
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Archer Archer
Just FYI - this reference came in various materials:

14k yellow gold
Good to know. 👍
Thanks,
gatorcpa
 
GordanDaniel
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Update: confirmed 14K gold case
Last serviced in 2011 - service crown and crystal. with genuine omega parts (so he says)
i bought it.

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GordanDaniel
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Archer Archer
Just FYI - this reference came in various materials:

18k 2N yellow gold

18k 3N yellow gold

18k white gold

14k yellow gold

14k yellow gold capped

14k pink gold capped

Stainless steel

Great information here thank you. It has been confirmed at 14K yellow.

Thanks again.
 
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