So... any of our members here have an interest in firearms?

ErichPryde · Dec 22, 2023

CBM1590
The Glock 34 is a long slide 9mm and is a shooter for sure. I have a stable full of various Glocks and I carry a G19 daily. My 34 is special because it was given to me by my PD when I retired as Mayor and they knew I was going to the police academy. It is my duty weapon when I do police work. It’ll flat run if you do your part.

Glocks are my preference as well. I carried a 3rd gen G19 for quite some time in AZ, These days it's a 42. And not as an officer. I respect what you do and have done. Thank you for your service.

ErichPryde · Dec 22, 2023

Waltesefalcon
I've posted this one before but to compliment the Swiss video I figured I'd show off a Swiss rifle. My Schmidt Rubin 96/11.

Beautiful.

Not exactly related... but I picked up a Moisin-Nagant M44 when I lived in Tucson for about $100 at a pawn shop. Nothing special about it other than it hadn't been counter-bored by Century, and had very little sign of barrel wear. There was still cosmoline on it, and the first time I took it out to fire it, more of it started working its way out of furniture.

I spent a lot of time cleaning up and refinishing that rifle, and despite (perhaps because of) all of its quirks, it had a lot of personality and was a blast to shoot and quite accurate.

I gave it to a friend before I moved- and it's honestly the only firearm I miss. clunky, impractical, heavy- but there's nothing quite like a bolt action rifle with character.

Duracuir1 · Dec 27, 2023

Inexpensive but very low maintenance. I carried a 17M and ended my policing career with the Gen 5… I still prefer the Sig P226…

CBM1590 · Dec 27, 2023

Duracuir1

Inexpensive but very low maintenance. I carried a 17M and ended my policing career with the Gen 5… I still prefer the Sig P226…

Wow. I hadn’t heard. Gaston Glock was a genius…and I figured out how much so when went to armorer school . I still have (and use) my dad’s 1986 Gen 1 G17 from back when there was only one model. It’s still a shooter.

ErichPryde · Dec 27, 2023

Duracuir1

Inexpensive but very low maintenance. I carried a 17M and ended my policing career with the Gen 5… I still prefer the Sig P226…

I tried a 9mm Sig for a while (SP2022) but it never shot as naturally as I would have liked. I know Sig is well-loved, so I'm happy to admit I was the issue.

Duracuir1 · Dec 27, 2023

ErichPryde
I tried a 9mm Sig for a while (SP2022) but it never shot as naturally as I would have liked. I know Sig is well-loved, so I'm happy to admit I was the issue.

I am sure there are much better pistols out there. Objects of desire. But for me they were supplied as tools and got the job done…

CBM1590 · Dec 27, 2023

My tribute to Mr. Glock. My 1986 17. Scarred and worn, I took it to the Glock Armorer school with me to have them go through it. They came back during a break and offered to refinish the slide. I politely declined.

It’s a tool. An instrument, if you will. And the music that is made with such a tool can be orchestral or disharmonious depending on the user and the intent. It is not inherently good or bad. Only the operator can determine that.

I ran it through a qualifying round for time earlier this fall during our open range day for kicks and giggles. It isn’t a normal carry or duty weapon but the gun will run. I’m fortunate that my fundamentals are sound and I have decades of experience shooting. The target shown is one of two in the round. It’s a perfect score. I normally shoot 94-98 consistently. Perfect doesn’t happen for me very often. (And I may need to adjust my sights a touch…I’m grouping a hair right.).

There are prettier weapons out there. There are most assuredly those with better triggers. But Glocks require little maintenance, are reliable as the sunrise, and don’t have to be babied. Hat tip to Gaston Glock. May he rest easy.

Waltesefalcon · Dec 28, 2023

I have never been able to force myself to like Glocks. They have terrible triggers, feel cheap, and in my hands they do not point nor shoot well. I will take a decent 1911 any day of the week, and leave the Glocks to the rest of y'all.

CBM1590 · Dec 28, 2023

I should have remembered to note that the lower on my 1986 had to be replaced. It didn’t pass the frame crack test when at the armory. I was asked if I wanted it to be a safe queen and the original frame left intake. That, after consideration, would have left me with an unusable tool. So, frame was replaced. Slide, barrel etc are still original.

noelekal · Dec 28, 2023

Pleeeease don't leave the Glocks to me Waltesefalcon!

Compelling me use a plastic pistol would be like compelling me to use quartz watches.

Gaston Glock contrived to bring a lot of earlier designs together with great marketing success. Is it "perfection?" Not as far as I can tell. Glocks just aren't extra special.

I greatly admire the three automatic pistols out in front: FN Hi-Power, Colt Model 1911, CZ 75. A single Glock lives here and I only acquired it so that I could better learn why i disdained Glock so ... and I did learn to better disdain them.

CBM1590 · Dec 28, 2023

Waltesefalcon
I have never been able to force myself to like Glocks. They have terrible triggers, feel cheap, and in my hands they do not point nor shoot well. I will take a decent 1911 any day of the week, and leave the Glocks to the rest of y'all.

There are other weapons that fit my hand better and have better triggers. I have considered adding Sig, CZ, HK, Stacatto etc to the fold from time to time. However, in a high stress, tense, and rapidly evolving situation, I will instinctively revert to what I know and train with. For that reason alone, I have stuck with the Glock platform. No thought required and all my models run and operate the same. It eliminates a potential source of error…and those can be very costly.

CBM1590 · Dec 28, 2023

noelekal
Pleeeease don't leave the Glocks to me Waltesefalcon!

Compelling me use a plastic pistol would be like compelling me to use quartz watches.

Gaston Glock contrived to bring a lot of earlier designs together with great marketing success. Is it "perfection?" Not as far as I can tell. Glocks just aren't extra special.

I greatly admire the three automatic pistols out in front: FN Hi-Power, Colt Model 1911, CZ 75. A single Glock lives here and I only acquired it so that I could better learn why i disdained Glock so ... and I did learn to better disdain them.

That Glock has seen some serious holster time. What does the MPDC on the slide stand for?

Wryfox · Dec 28, 2023

I recently inherited my Father in Law's Glock from 1988. 2nd gen(US never got the 1st gen). Importation to US started in early 1986.

I went to the US Glock factory in Smyrna Georgia(est in 1985, the first subsidiary of Glock outside Austria) back in the late 1990s. If you brought your Glock, they would recondition it for free while you took the tour. Pretty cool place. Learned that production cost on a late 90s Glock was $110USD, with selling price around the 450 mark.

Attached below is the earliest magazine article I have on a Glock, all the way back to October 1984. Pretty cool article.

CBM1590 · Dec 28, 2023

Wryfox
I recently inherited my Father in Law's Glock from 1988. 2nd gen(US never got the 1st gen). Importation to US started in early 1986.

I went to the US Glock factory in Smyrna Georgia(est in 1985, the first subsidiary of Glock outside Austria) back in the late 1990s. If you brought your Glock, they would recondition it for free while you took the tour. Pretty cool place. Learned that production cost on a late 90s Glock was $110USD, with selling price around the 450 mark.

Attached below is the earliest magazine article I have on a Glock, all the way back to October 1984. Pretty cool article.

There is some discrepancy in the available information. Please don’t take this post as argumentative. It isn’t intended to be and I may be incorrect.

There weren’t many Gen 1s introduced to the U.S. However, Glock made its footprint on US soil in 1985. Gen 2 was introduced in 1988. My father traded his Smith & Wesson .357 revolver for his Glock in 1986 after Glock brought their infamous torture test routine to agencies in Georgia. He promptly traded for his after witnessing one dropped from a helicopter with a chambered round. I thought he’d lost his mind when he came home with it. He’s now been deceased for nearly 31 years. Oh how I wish I could pick his brain about a number of things. This subject would be on the list, albeit lower on the list than many other topics of conversation.

Wryfox · Dec 28, 2023

CBM1590
There is some discrepancy in the available information. Please don’t take this post as argumentative. It isn’t intended to be and I may be incorrect.

There weren’t many Gen 1s introduced to the U.S. However, Glock made its footprint on US soil in 1985. Gen 2 was introduced in 1988. My father traded his Smith & Wesson .357 revolver for his Glock in 1986 after Glock brought their infamous torture test routine to agencies in Georgia. He promptly traded for his after witnessing one dropped from a helicopter with a chambered round. I thought he’d lost his mind when he came home with it. He’s now been deceased for nearly 31 years. Oh how I wish I could pick his brain about a number of things. This subject would be on the list, albeit lower on the list than many other topics of conversation.

Yeah, it is a fact that Glock established the importation office in Smyrna Georgia, in December of 1985, starting importation of demo models(Gen 1) in January of 1986. From there they went on a nationwide tour soliciting police contracts only. From my sources (imperfect as they may be) production models for civilian sale in US were only 2nd gen. I think the issue is what the "market introduction" is defined as, LEO only or civilian.

noelekal · Dec 28, 2023

CBM1590
That Glock has seen some serious holster time. What does the MPDC on the slide stand for?

Metropolitian Police District of Columbia

It's a 2nd generation 17 acquired for little cash outlay from a gun show promoter friend of mine who took it in trade.

CBM1590 · Dec 28, 2023

noelekal
Metropolitian Police District of Columbia

It's a 2nd generation 17 acquired for little cash outlay from a gun show promoter friend of mine who took it in trade.

Very cool.

CBM1590 · Dec 28, 2023

Wryfox
Yeah, it is a fact that Glock established the importation office in Smyrna Georgia, in December of 1985, starting importation of demo models(Gen 1) in January of 1986. From there they went on a nationwide tour soliciting police contracts only. From my sources (imperfect as they may be) production models for civilian sale in US were only 2nd gen. I think the issue is what the "market introduction" is defined as, LEO only or civilian.

That would make sense and clears up a lot for me. Dad was a peace officer so his would have been earmarked for LE agencies then. Wish I could have been present for the torture test routine.

Waltesefalcon · Dec 28, 2023

CBM1590
However, in a high stress, tense, and rapidly evolving situation, I will instinctively revert to what I know and train with.

I completely agree with you. I grew up shooting bullseye matches in the 80s, the three guns I shot in competition were a Ruger Standard, a Colt Army Special in .38 spl that my dad had slicked up some, and my dad's Colt 1911. The first time I shot a Glock I was in my mid to late twenties and by that time I'd been shooting a 1911 for over fifteen years and had put countless rounds down range using one.

SPO · Dec 28, 2023

My G23 was the very first firearm I ever bought and it's never hiccupped in the 17 years I've had it.

(just bought an OLIGHT green laser/light combo for it. Not the top of the line but very decent for a $100 laser/light combo)