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repoman
·Brand new 116520 no way. If the offer was for a 6238 or 6262 yes.
Good luck whatever you decide. I'm keeping my Snoopy for full disclosure.
Edited:
Silver Snoopy - Daytona
Good luck whatever you decide. I'm keeping my Snoopy for full disclosure.
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mavkjay
·Thanks all. No question who's the winner.
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Riviera Paradise
·I believe the Rolex Cosmograph Daytona was named for the 24 Hours of Daytona sportscar race (hence the race's longtime official name, the Rolex 24 at Daytona), rather than NASCAR... In the 1960s, it was the center of the battle between Ferrari and Ford; it continues to be a most awesome event 😉
Thanks @abrod520...you are absolutely right about the Rolex 24 but for me it is still considered a "US event" and has less prestige as an endurance race than Le Mans...since a wee lad 8yrs old I have been very much the typical F1 fanatic...having read aeronautical engineering at Uni (not my current profession) I actually have some classmates who graduated with me who have worked in F1 (some still do today)....I find F1 from an engineering perspective to be a fascinating pursuit of excellence, though I do think that the actual racing as a spectator sport needs improvement. Perhaps if they had called the Daytona the "Rolex Monaco" (before Heuer used that name)...I could have felt some temptation😉
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meganfox17
·Hi @shoota70
I would award You without a shadow of a doubt
"A Nasa approved Omega Silver Snoopy medallion " for coming up with arguably the Best Quote in The Omega Forum i have ever read....Period !
Damn ! That Was Pure Genius !
I would award You without a shadow of a doubt
"A Nasa approved Omega Silver Snoopy medallion " for coming up with arguably the Best Quote in The Omega Forum i have ever read....Period !
Damn ! That Was Pure Genius !
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abrod520
·Thanks @abrod520...you are absolutely right about the Rolex 24 but for me it is still considered a "US event" and has less prestige as an endurance race than Le Mans...since a wee lad 8yrs old I have been very much the typical F1 fanatic...having read aeronautical engineering at Uni (not my current profession) I actually have some classmates who graduated with me who have worked in F1 (some still do today)....I find F1 from an engineering perspective to be a fascinating pursuit of excellence, though I do think that the actual racing as a spectator sport needs improvement. Perhaps if they had called the Daytona the "Rolex Monaco" (before Heuer used that name)...I could have felt some temptation😉
Ah yes, Le Mans is of course tops when it comes to sportscar racing - and motor racing in general IMO. Though Daytona is US-only, some of the best GT racing in the world occurs in the US, and this year's Daytona 24 was no exception!
Formula 1 used to appeal to me, but it's become quite boring of late IMO, from the (basically) spec cars to the (basically) spec courses! I can't even watch WEC race on Tilke courses, it puts me to sleep 😉
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentRolex 24 hrs is definitely good racing, but I'd love to see it on a real road course vs an oval with an auto-x course added in the infield. I suspect not many road courses in the US could support the size of the event though.
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KstateSkier
·I bet if you had an avatar the decision would be easier to make. 😉
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abrod520
·Rolex 24 hrs is definitely good racing, but I'd love to see it on a real road course vs an oval with an auto-x course added in the infield. I suspect not many road courses in the US could support the size of the event though.
The infield road course is actually not bad! It's very organic - a couple fast corners, a couple slow ones. Plus the bus-stop chicane is fairly challenging. It's not terribly dissimilar from La Sarthe actually - the race is interesting not so much because of the course itself but because of the history, and because of the racing that emerges. Have you noticed that races tend to be closer and more interesting on old-fashioned, organic tracks than on modern tracks designed to defeat advances in aerodynamics and tire grip?
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentHave you noticed that races tend to be closer and more interesting on old-fashioned, organic tracks than on modern tracks designed to defeat advances in aerodynamics and tire grip?
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abrod520
·The Daytona 24 is now raced by what used to be ALMS, making it a lot more interesting than it had been for many years. I'd been a fan of the ALMS from very early on, but the addition of the old Grand-Am's lower-GT level teams has made it even more interesting IMO.
Yeah, it's still a problem but the TV crews are starting to figure out how much more interesting GT racing is - the whole last 2 hours or so of Daytona this year was mostly nonstop coverage of Corvette vs. Porsche, then Corvette vs. Other Corvette.
I saw the Lime Rock races live in 2005-06 (including the very last North American appearance of the Audi R8) and while the experience is much more visceral than watching on TV, it's hard to keep up with the actual race as key passes (and other events) can often happen out of your view, so I'm still a dedicated viewer 😀
the broadcasts rarely show anything other then the LMP cars
Yeah, it's still a problem but the TV crews are starting to figure out how much more interesting GT racing is - the whole last 2 hours or so of Daytona this year was mostly nonstop coverage of Corvette vs. Porsche, then Corvette vs. Other Corvette.
I saw the Lime Rock races live in 2005-06 (including the very last North American appearance of the Audi R8) and while the experience is much more visceral than watching on TV, it's hard to keep up with the actual race as key passes (and other events) can often happen out of your view, so I'm still a dedicated viewer 😀
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Riviera Paradise
·Formula 1 used to appeal to me, but it's become quite boring of late IMO, from the (basically) spec cars to the (basically) spec courses! I can't even watch WEC race on Tilke courses, it puts me to sleep
I would agree that F1 races have become less interesting as pure racing...but there is a significant difference between the actual cars racing in terms of technology, aero and power units (F1 have sophisticated energy recovery systems integrated with the PU). The cars also undergo significant development during the race season, so there is also a "parallel" race between the engineering teams.
The older traditional tracks are still excellent (Spa, Silverstone, Monza, Interlagos, Suzuka...)...the main issue I find is that tyre management has become a key element for race wins, drivers do not push to the limit anymore...they have to manage their tyres to avoid a sudden drop of performance and maximize the race stints...so F1 has indeed become more of a chess / strategy "sport" than pure racing...but I still find it enjoyable, perhaps because of my technical background.
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BlackTalon
··This Space for RentI saw the Lime Rock races live in 2005-06 (including the very last North American appearance of the Audi R8) and while the experience is much more visceral than watching on TV, it's hard to keep up with the actual race as key passes (and other events) can often happen out of your view, so I'm still a dedicated viewer 😀
But back to watch content. When is someone going to roll out a "Road America" or "Mid-Ohio" watch model? 😀
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dsio
··Ash @ ΩFThe pricing isn't that out of whack, you've got a Snoopy on eBay for 14K here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311-32-42-3...717858?hash=item3abf210ea2:g:MecAAOSwoudW4GfP
But Daytonas are still around 10-12K so you'd at least want some cash your way. The Snoopy is going to do reasonably well long term but the notion that $18-20k is "the price" is patently ridiculous which people are wising up to.
Once Omega finish making the rest of them I'd expect it to stay above MSRP but under 10k.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311-32-42-3...717858?hash=item3abf210ea2:g:MecAAOSwoudW4GfP
But Daytonas are still around 10-12K so you'd at least want some cash your way. The Snoopy is going to do reasonably well long term but the notion that $18-20k is "the price" is patently ridiculous which people are wising up to.
Once Omega finish making the rest of them I'd expect it to stay above MSRP but under 10k.
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abrod520
·The cars also undergo significant development during the race season, so there is also a "parallel" race between the engineering teams.
True, and the engineering is still something to be marveled at - but then, so are the top-flight hybrid P1 cars in the WEC, and all on Michelin tires which allow them to go at it quite ferociously!
I think the Panoz cars hold the lifetime achievement award for "most visceral experience" -- they were truly ground-shaking.
I saw the GT1-class Corvette C5-R in its last year ('05) and the C6-R in its first ('06) at Lime Rock... the first turn off the front straight is a right-hander way around a big hill; even sitting on the other side of the hill from the straight, you could feel the Corvettes braking / downshifting before they came into view a few moments later.
I remember having difficulty hearing for about a week after each of those races 😀
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Perseus
·How do you feel about the Daytona? I miss the panda dial Daytona's and I don't have any attachment to Snoopy. I think the Silver Snoopy is hot right now but I'm not sure these prices will last. How many other special edition Speedies are pulling down this kind of coin 5-1-15 years down the road?
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mavkjay
·I've always wanted a 116520. But feeling an attachment to the Snoopy now, seeing that its such a great timepiece.
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demollo
·I read your question on TRF forum as well. That is a really good idea to see what people from Rolex and Omega are saying about the swap and majority from both forums are actually saying to keep Snoopy and that's what i would do 😀
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al128
·How do you feel about the Daytona? I miss the panda dial Daytona's and I don't have any attachment to Snoopy. I think the Silver Snoopy is hot right now but I'm not sure these prices will last. How many other special edition Speedies are pulling down this kind of coin 5-1-15 years down the road?
That!
It's not that omega will stop churning out LE after LE once the last snoopy left Switzerland.
Imo the snoopy is the flavor of the month... milk it for what you can before people move on
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lefteye
·I guess the value is what the owner feels it is worth to them. Doesn't mean they will get the price. Like earlier if you like what they offer in exchange take it. I got my snoopy last week and am still undecided about it.
