Silver Snoopy 50th

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When I got mine, I had told my OB rep that I wanted one sometime in 2025. that was in January. She called me a week later asking if I was ready. I said no, but I'll see you Saturday. Called the bank to get a credit limit increase on the zero percent card. But as @YY77 says, this is a bad place to ask for advice like this. We are a bunch of enablers here.
hahaha bunch of enablers, thanks for the genuine advice.
 
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I'm Dutch so I'm going to be direct, don't let your financial decision depend on people on the internet.
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Hello, I've searched this forum, but failed to find relevant discussions...so I am writing to get collective wisdom.

I am considering adding silver snoopy 50th to my existing collection - 3861 hesalite, 3861 sedna/steel bi-color and 321 EW. Reason being that it's just beautiful (especially the combo of silver dial & ceramic bezel, let alone the case back). This being 4th speedmaster, I also wish this watch could maintain its value in the long haul (i.e. I am becoming more sensitive & selective to spending). By 'maintain', what I mean is at least I want its value won't drop by as much/fast as that of other regular models would do, and to be clear, I am not wishing it'll skyrocket like 45th snoopy did, because I don't expect flipping, unless in a financially stressed situation. The 50th one is not limited mumbered edition unlike its older brothers, and still being produced, and no news or hint that Omega will stop producing it soon.

Boutique nearby believes my chances being allocated look reasonably good considering the history I bought from them and discussed this and that with them, so I submitted application. They said they will come back with feedback first hopefully in a few weeks, adding that it's OK making a formal order after the feedback.

Any thoughts very much appreciated with respect!
I think I waited about 3-4 years for mine it finally came in January 25 it's my favourite watch always puts a smile on my face and while I have a regular 3816 sapphire sandwich, the snoopy is my go to watch. the value retention is just a bonus but I've always gone with the mantra when it comes to watches buy what you like rather than just what's popular.
 
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If Omega respected their customers they wouldn't let people buy the watch they want is a hell of a take.
Problem is that Omega is copy pasting Rolex play book with regard to Snoopy allocation, the watch is not avilable for purchase and in many parts of the world a customer needs to have a purchase history of 1 to 2 watches at least, so Omega better ensure that the watch continue to perform well in the secondary market and customers should at least expect a 50% markup. If they want to play the scarcity game they have to do it right!
 
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Problem is that Omega is copy pasting Rolex play book with regard to Snoopy allocation, the watch is not avilable for purchase and in many parts of the world a customer needs to have a purchase history of 1 to 2 watches at least, so Omega better ensure that the watch continue to perform well in the secondary market and customers should at least expect a 50% markup. If they want to play the scarcity game they have to do it right!
Hard disagree.
 
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Can you explain why?
You have absolutely no right to expect your watch, any watch, to even maintain its retail value. Let alone a 50% premium.
 
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so Omega better ensure that the watch continue to perform well in the secondary market and customers should at least expect a 50% markup
It's not near 50% by a long shot, current msrp of €11.8k with only a 2k premium for an unworn '25 listed on C24 is just over 18%.
 
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You have absolutely no right to expect your watch, any watch, to even maintain its retail value. Let alone a 50% premium.
Strongly disagree,
Omega has no right either to play dirty games with its customer as a retailer. No one expects a moonwatch or the diver 300 (even special editions) to go upmarket as they are readily avilable and that is fine, but when you force your customers to build a purcahse history to lure them into getting a Snoopy that is a different talk. If a watch brand wants to treat their loyal client with special watches that understandable but over supplying will only hurt those loyal customers and eventually the brand image, the big players understand this and I think this is the reason why Omega position is taking a hit according to morgan stanely report.
 
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It's not near 50% by a long shot, current msrp of €11.8k with only a 2k premium for an unworn '25 listed on C24 is just over 10%.
I know but I'm just saying what it should be based on Omega sales strategy.
I bought mine new for $2K above msrp as I did not want to play Omega dirty game although I had purcahsed many watches from my AD in Jordan before (5 omega watches). Once the Snooppy was announced back in 2020, I put my name down and I followed up for many years with no luck. Then I moved to Qatar, and guess what, the AD wanted me to build a purcahse history (buying 2 watches) in order to get a Snoopy, so if I have gone that route and bought the 2 most desirable watches, a moonwatch and a diver, it would cost me around $15k while I would get them from secondary market for $12k and $9-10k if they were used in mint condition. In conclusion, there is no actual reward / benefit in building a relationship with an official Omaga boutique if the premium for Snoopy is only $2k.
And if Omega continue to supply the watch, it will eventually fall below retail and would no longer be a special piece as Omega intended.
 
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Nobody "forced" me to buy anything. When I bought my white speedy, and the fois a few months later, a Snoopy wasn't even on the radar. Did those purchases help my chances when I did want one? Yes, but the relationship I developed with the OB people helped more. They knew I wanted it for keeps, not to flip.
 
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Omega had a hot watch in the Snoopy 50th and yes, games were played with potential customers to get on the coveted 'list'. But people had a choice whether to play the Rolex-style game. People can get a Snoopy anytime they want on C24, and other places. You'll pay a premium, but it's an easy watch to get. I always thought buying watches you really don't want in order to curry favor with a dealer down the road was a losing proposition, but some people played that game. Emotion does weird stuff to people.
 
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I think I waited about 3-4 years for mine it finally came in January 25 it's my favourite watch always puts a smile on my face and while I have a regular 3816 sapphire sandwich, the snoopy is my go to watch. the value retention is just a bonus but I've always gone with the mantra when it comes to watches buy what you like rather than just what's popular.
Thx for sharing your experience.
 
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I know but I'm just saying what it should be based on Omega sales strategy.
I bought mine new for $2K above msrp as I did not want to play Omega dirty game although I had purcahsed many watches from my AD in Jordan before (5 omega watches). Once the Snooppy was announced back in 2020, I put my name down and I followed up for many years with no luck. Then I moved to Qatar, and guess what, the AD wanted me to build a purcahse history (buying 2 watches) in order to get a Snoopy, so if I have gone that route and bought the 2 most desirable watches, a moonwatch and a diver, it would cost me around $15k while I would get them from secondary market for $12k and $9-10k if they were used in mint condition. In conclusion, there is no actual reward / benefit in building a relationship with an official Omaga boutique if the premium for Snoopy is only $2k.
And if Omega continue to supply the watch, it will eventually fall below retail and would no longer be a special piece as Omega intended.
But as you said it's an AD which is a privately owned company so are free to allocate watches how they choose not that I agree with it, in the UK the are many Omega only stores people think are owned by Omega but in fact I know when the Snoopy first released I was told by the WOS owned store that I wouldn't be considered unless I had a spend history of £50K +. When I went directly to the Omega owned store the process was much different.
 
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I'd like a Speedmaster with Charlie Brown and Lucy where he finally kicks the football, and it circles around the dial on the sweep hand. Dare to dream.🥱
 
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But as you said it's an AD which is a privately owned company so are free to allocate watches how they choose not that I agree with it, in the UK the are many Omega only stores people think are owned by Omega but in fact I know when the Snoopy first released I was told by the WOS owned store that I wouldn't be considered unless I had a spend history of £50K +. When I went directly to the Omega owned store the process was much different.
Omega is free to do what ever it wants, at the end it is up to customers to accept playing along or not, same goes for other brands as well. Other brands try to protect their special pieces in order to keep their customers happy and to maintian the brands image, status, and to keep up the hype. Some might agree with this approach others wont. Watches are not investments but any brand who tries to protect or enhance value retention of its offering deserves my respect.

My take on Omega is that they over supply the market with special editions like Seamaster James Bonds they 3 or 4 models, I stopped counting, before that they used to release limited editions, and they charge quite a premium on these special editions however, in 1 to 2 years they are traded at 20% off retail in the secondary market, I do not think this is a good strategy for a luxury brand as it dilutes its status and defeats the purpose of building a long term relationship, so if Omega wants to keep pumping Snoopys for 10 years to milk their clients, it is their decision but it wont do them any good in the long term, each year their sales is declining not because they do not produce good watches but because their sales and marketing strategy is no longer working, just my 2 cent.
 
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I know but I'm just saying what it should be based on Omega sales strategy.
I bought mine new for $2K above msrp as I did not want to play Omega dirty game although I had purcahsed many watches from my AD in Jordan before (5 omega watches). Once the Snooppy was announced back in 2020, I put my name down and I followed up for many years with no luck. Then I moved to Qatar, and guess what, the AD wanted me to build a purcahse history (buying 2 watches) in order to get a Snoopy, so if I have gone that route and bought the 2 most desirable watches, a moonwatch and a diver, it would cost me around $15k while I would get them from secondary market for $12k and $9-10k if they were used in mint condition. In conclusion, there is no actual reward / benefit in building a relationship with an official Omaga boutique if the premium for Snoopy is only $2k.
And if Omega continue to supply the watch, it will eventually fall below retail and would no longer be a special piece as Omega intended.
With the discounts we are enjoying in Omega, at least in Spain, "building a relationship" is no longer worth it to get a specific piece. Paying a small premium for a Snoopy pays off. Examples:
https://relojes-especiales.com/thre...r-first-omega-in-space-·-oferta-6900€.603620/
https://relojes-especiales.com/thre...ecial-hasta-33-dto-unidades-limitadas.603560/
https://relojes-especiales.com/thre...-01-001-·-5665-€-·-unidades-limitadas.600639/
 
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My OB tried to subtly play that game of "if you buy one more piece, you're guaranteed a spot for a Snoopy" crap. Didn't bite as the only new release which might consider is the Orange PO. Also know any newer Omega holds value like a lead balloon on the secondary market, not that I'm looking to sell it right away.
 
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Thanks everyone who chipped in advices. I bought one today at a boutique and feel very happy.
 
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Thanks everyone who chipped in advices. I bought one today at a boutique and feel very happy.
Pictures please.