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··history nerdHi fellow Submariner fans,
I've been struggling with an idea, and I figured you'd be the natural source of advice.
I've owned a 116610 since 2015. My wife bought it for me on the day we picked up our wedding bands, and I wore it on our wedding day and during our honeymoon in Jamaica (it was on my wrist when we went snorkeling). Over the ensuing years I've worn it a bit less frequently, and it's not in my regular rotation - I've been known to leave it in my watch box for a month or more at a time, while I wear my Seamasters and my Speedy a whole lot. It's not that I don't like the Rolex - in part I think it's due to the Instagram effect and the idea that I don't want to look like a jerk (or attract the wrong kind of attention in public).
But the biggest thing I've realized over the past couple of years is that I really prefer the 114060. The purity and symmetry of the no-date dial just looks a lot better to me. Which brings me to my point: I've been looking on Chrono24 and elsewhere for price ranges, and I've reached out to several grey market dealers who have the 114060 in stock. Invariably I've been offered a trade price for my current watch around $2K less than the no-date version. I think if I did the exchange, I'd wear my Rolex considerably more often than I do now. That said, I don't know if exchanging a Sub Date (technically about $1K more expensive than the Sub when new) for a no-date Sub, while paying a premium for it of about 20% on current value, is worth it. (I could easily put the $2K towards a Tudor Black Bay 58, for instance.)
I'd really welcome your thoughts and suggestions, friends. Thanks in advance.
EDIT: For those of you who may be wondering, I've talked about this with my wife, and she's OK with the idea in principle. She's actually asked me a few times whether I should sell my 116610 if I'm not going to wear it regularly, so she's not hung up on the idea that since it was a gift, I have to keep it regardless.
I've been struggling with an idea, and I figured you'd be the natural source of advice.
I've owned a 116610 since 2015. My wife bought it for me on the day we picked up our wedding bands, and I wore it on our wedding day and during our honeymoon in Jamaica (it was on my wrist when we went snorkeling). Over the ensuing years I've worn it a bit less frequently, and it's not in my regular rotation - I've been known to leave it in my watch box for a month or more at a time, while I wear my Seamasters and my Speedy a whole lot. It's not that I don't like the Rolex - in part I think it's due to the Instagram effect and the idea that I don't want to look like a jerk (or attract the wrong kind of attention in public).
But the biggest thing I've realized over the past couple of years is that I really prefer the 114060. The purity and symmetry of the no-date dial just looks a lot better to me. Which brings me to my point: I've been looking on Chrono24 and elsewhere for price ranges, and I've reached out to several grey market dealers who have the 114060 in stock. Invariably I've been offered a trade price for my current watch around $2K less than the no-date version. I think if I did the exchange, I'd wear my Rolex considerably more often than I do now. That said, I don't know if exchanging a Sub Date (technically about $1K more expensive than the Sub when new) for a no-date Sub, while paying a premium for it of about 20% on current value, is worth it. (I could easily put the $2K towards a Tudor Black Bay 58, for instance.)
I'd really welcome your thoughts and suggestions, friends. Thanks in advance.
EDIT: For those of you who may be wondering, I've talked about this with my wife, and she's OK with the idea in principle. She's actually asked me a few times whether I should sell my 116610 if I'm not going to wear it regularly, so she's not hung up on the idea that since it was a gift, I have to keep it regardless.
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·No-date Subs are much more appealing, I agree. 
Did you really expect that a dealer would just happily make a trade at what you consider market value? They are in the business to make a profit, and in a trade, they want to make a profit on both ends. It's a job for them, they want to make money. The price when new is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is what you can negotiate.
If you think it's worth more, sell it yourself, and then buy the no-date Sub. If you want to avoid the hassle of selling and buying, then take the loss.
In your place, I'd probably buy a nice no-date Sub while prices are low, live with both watches for a while, and then sell the one I liked less, preferably in a couple of years after prices have recovered.
Did you really expect that a dealer would just happily make a trade at what you consider market value? They are in the business to make a profit, and in a trade, they want to make a profit on both ends. It's a job for them, they want to make money. The price when new is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is what you can negotiate.
If you think it's worth more, sell it yourself, and then buy the no-date Sub. If you want to avoid the hassle of selling and buying, then take the loss.
In your place, I'd probably buy a nice no-date Sub while prices are low, live with both watches for a while, and then sell the one I liked less, preferably in a couple of years after prices have recovered.
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··history nerdNo-date Subs are much more appealing, I agree.
Did you really expect that a dealer would just happily make a trade at what you consider market value? They are in the business to make a profit, and in a trade, they want to make a profit on both ends. It's a job for them, they want to make money. The price when new is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is what you can negotiate.
If you think it's worth more, sell it yourself, and then buy the no-date Sub. If you want to avoid the hassle of selling and buying, then take the loss.
In your place, I'd probably buy a nice no-date Sub while prices are low, live with both watches for a while, and then sell the one I liked less, preferably in a couple of years after prices have recovered.
Second, if I'm going to do this, I'll need to sell the Sub Date (or exchange it) to close the deal. I can't afford to buy the Sub no-date on its own without selling something else. I only have one Rolex, and I'm not sure I'll be able to own two. We'll see.
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··history nerd
Wearing it today. Still haven't decided, but thanks, Dan, for your input.
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·Maybe have a look at a 14060 as well to mix things up. Gets not only rid of the date, but also the ceramic bezel and oversized lugs.
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··history nerdWell, now I'm going in a whole new direction.
Here's one that just came up for sale:
https://www.bernardwatch.com/Rolex/Submariner-'4-Lines'/RLX8815
A question for the uninitiated (such as myself) on one of these: the rehaut is engraved, something that I thought was new within the last 15 years or so; but the case also has lug holes, which I thought they'd done away with around the same time.
Here's one that just came up for sale:
https://www.bernardwatch.com/Rolex/Submariner-'4-Lines'/RLX8815
A question for the uninitiated (such as myself) on one of these: the rehaut is engraved, something that I thought was new within the last 15 years or so; but the case also has lug holes, which I thought they'd done away with around the same time.
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··Hears dead people, not watch rotors.A question for the uninitiated (such as myself) on one of these: the rehaut is engraved, something that I thought was new within the last 15 years or so; but the case also has lug holes, which I thought they'd done away with around the same time.
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·Well, now I'm going in a whole new direction.
Here's one that just came up for sale:
https://www.bernardwatch.com/Rolex/Submariner-'4-Lines'/RLX8815
A question for the uninitiated (such as myself) on one of these: the rehaut is engraved, something that I thought was new within the last 15 years or so; but the case also has lug holes, which I thought they'd done away with around the same time.
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·Enjoying other side of the Equator...
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··Stripers, not snook.Picked up this old but unusual beater a couple weeks ago. At watchmaker for overhaul, should be ready this week.
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