Should I buy the 321 Ed White or go Vintage

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My take having owned a 105.003-63 and concurrently (and still own) a 105.012-65 and 145.0045-76: I wore my Ed White quite a bit but it was a “wearer” condition watch - which I prefer. The values of the new 321 and many times higher than a nice condition vintage piece - so I would go with the vintage piece. For the Pro model, I find myself wearing my -76 a LOT more than my nice -65. Honestly, if I could have kept my Ed White and bought the new blue-dial FOIS - that would have been perfection.
 
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Wow! Having caught up with some of the OPs earlier posts it seems we are dealing with someone with impulse control issues who changes his mind at the drop of a hat. Watch this space for his next expensive adventure…
Doesn't that describe 99% of us watch enthusiasts though?
 
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So, I've realised that my ultimate Speedmaster goal is to get a Speedmaster with the historic 321 movement in it.

That to me feels like the final point in my Speedmaster journey.

Naturally, nowadays, there are 2 options. Get a modern 321, either second hand/grey market or from a boutique if possible, or buy vintage.

The reason I ask is that while the 321 from Omega is a fantastic watch, I'm not sure if it's quite "true" Speedmaster enough for me.

It certainly ticks a lot of the right boxes, vintage proportions, design, flatlink bracelet, the 321 movement of course. However, it has a few things that I'm not too enamoured with. Namely, the cermaic bezel and the display caseback.

An actual vintage Speedmaster 105003 would obviously solve that, but it comes with all the trappings and troubles of trying to get a completely original watch in reasonably good condition, and then obviously maintaining it is a bit of a challenge in and of itself.

What do you think I should do?
I've replied to a few other posts of yours regarding your FOIS. I'd tread carefully looking beyond that just yet. Take your time with this hobby. If I've learnt anything in the watch world, it's that a quick decision can often be the wrong one. Take your time. A watch is not a necessity (even if people say otherwise).

For what it's worth, I think owning a vintage model brings along the extra "risk" of parts not being original, and the obvious servicing difficulty. Only you truly know what you want from a watch, so asking here will only be a way of enabling your choices.

For what it's worth, I'm having the same debate between a vintage model and the modern Ed White 321 for when I have the funds available in the future. I still don't know, and likely won't for a while/if ever.
 
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I wanted a pre-Moon 145.022-69ST. I found one and it was my first Speedmaster. I never wore it and then Omega released the 3861 Moonwatch. I sold the pre-Moon and bought the 3861 a few months later and am very happy I did. It does have the obnoxious Moon stuff on the case back but it also has all the little features I loved about the -69.
 
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I have four examples of the current 3861, hesalite, white dial 2024, FOISv2, and Snoopy 50. I would love to find a 1966 Speedy, but am not up to the challenge of going down the vintage rabbit hole. So IF I were to buy a 321, it would be a new one.
 
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Since you asked what we think you should do: I think you should ask yourself if it's a watch you intend to wear, and how often. Or if you're fine with it being a watch you keep stored away in a watch box to admire from time to time. Neither approach is wrong, we all have different goals in collecting and goals for different watches.

If I purchased a vintage 321 I would intend to wear it. Not to go on a beach vacation or work in the yard, but I'd wear it. I'd buy one in nice condition, have it serviced. No museum piece for me.

I get the feeling you've put the vintage 321 on a pedestal which could make it a hard one to wear often, assuming that's your collecting goal.
 
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I had both and kept the vintage one. The new one wears much more like a modern watch with the sapphire crystal and the ceramic insert catches the light in a different way to the aluminium one. Also I wasn't so keen on the fauxtina and sapphire crystal combo, it's a strange mix of vintage and modern that didn't work for me.

 
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Forget what everyone is saying and both of your options. What you really want is a full gold Speedmaster on bracelet! You won't have any regrets spending like $45k+ on a watch. Trust me bro.
 
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I had both and kept the vintage one. The new one wears much more like a modern watch with the sapphire crystal and the ceramic insert catches the light in a different way to the aluminium one. Also I wasn't so keen on the fauxtina and sapphire crystal combo, it's a strange mix of vintage and modern that didn't work for me.


These pictures highlight how much better the original looks to me and why I wouldn’t bother with a new one.
My preference would always be to get a vintage example, striking a balance between condition and wearability that I’m comfortable with. I say this as someone who daily’d a -65 Ed White for several years.
 
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I don't quite get the notion that only going vintage will satisfy you. The 321 was a tool watch, a pretty common movement unremarkable in its design and finishing, they aren't a grail item, imo. Buy a vintage one if that is your thing, but are you prepared for the search in order to get one that hasn't been buggered around in some way over its 60+ year life? And do you have access to a repairer that knows what they are doing, and can source whatever replacement parts it might need going forward? Me, I don't want to deal with the issues. I like the look of the new EW321 and I know Omega will overhaul as needed for longer than I will be alive. Make your choice and live with it.
 
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I had both and kept the vintage one. The new one wears much more like a modern watch with the sapphire crystal and the ceramic insert catches the light in a different way to the aluminium one. Also I wasn't so keen on the fauxtina and sapphire crystal combo, it's a strange mix of vintage and modern that didn't work for me.

These photos really help show the differences. I hadn’t quite clocked how much thicker the font is on the modern one (on the bezel). I’d probably go towards a vintage example.
 
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To add to this for anyone considering the same question, it's worth noting that a good condition Ed White can be found and serviced by an experienced Speedmaster Specialist for within 11-12k USD these days, sometimes even less. The new 321 is an excellent watch, but IMO there's still something really special about a vintage 321 in nice, original condition.
 
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with vintage 321, you are not just buying an old 321 speedmaster but history in addition to its exceptional durability. The original 321 is powered by a blue hairspring made by breguet, and i know very well how it feels to wind the old 321, plus the accuracy.
 
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with vintage 321, you are not just buying an old 321 speedmaster but history in addition to its exceptional durability. The original 321 is powered by a blue hairspring made by breguet, and i know very well how it feels to wind the old 321, plus the accuracy.
Totally agree i own quite a few vintage EW and the wind on a modern 321 is so different
 
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These photos really help show the differences.

In my experience, photos don't do the watch justice. You really should see it in person, the difference is night and day.
 
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The original 321 is powered by a blue hairspring made by breguet
Uh....nope.
 
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I find the ceramic bezel jarring on the new ed white.
I think the vintage watches are more attractive when you find a quality one.
Sill happy to own the new one but the older ones have just got something more genuine.