Seiko SDGZ013 and 005

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I am obsessed with these two watches right now. Can't seem to shake the urge to get my hands on one of 'em - leaning toward the panda.

I love seiko and am not even kinda concerned with perception, but I am having difficulty spending Speedmaster $ on a Seiko.

What do you guys think of these? The Panda (013) is an 8r48, which by all accounts is a bad ass Seiko only movement with some very unique features. The black bezel (005) is an 8r28 which is also getting some solid reviews.

Anybody own one, played with one, opened one up?

(borrowed pics)

 
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Sweet! I like the silver faced one...... pretty enough to pry my wallet open....