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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI would imagine it'd be the same rate, but what would be the typical hours of labor of a 1151 compared to an 861 be if they had identical service issues?
Labour charged = time.
Okay to put this to bed hopefully, if I can't convince you then maybe Omega's own classifications will...
Omega publishes productivity numbers for servicing watches, and these are listed under Work Instruction 48. There they classify movements based on the time needed to service them, and the 1150/1160 series movements, the 861/1861, the F. Piguet based chronograph movements like the 3301, and the 8500/8900 3 hand movement with date only, are all considered the same in terms of time needed for servicing.
These are all in the WP4 category, so out of the 7 classifications Omega has for complete service, with WP2 being the easiest/fastest and WP8 being the hardest/slowest, these are WP4, so not even close to being the most time consuming or difficult.
Cheers, Al
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03Hemi
·So, you're saying "it's not" a complicated watch? Not based on service, but based on it's complications?
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03Hemi
·You're skirting the question Archer, I just said it was a complicated watch based on its complications, that's all.
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··Omega Qualified WatchmakerYou're skirting the question Archer, I just said it was a complicated watch based on its complications, that's all.
I've gone out of my way to answer the same question that you posed in several different ways, showing you each time that this is not "one of Omega's most complicated movements" and yet you say I'm skirting the question?
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·Greetings
May I say that it has many "functions" but not so "technically complicated"?
Well, I wear the ref. 3520.50 Speedmaster Day-Date every day and I think Omega Calibre 1151 may have many functions, but it is technically simple and, thankfully, reliable in many occasions. It is good movement but nothing so fancy about it, though.
Up to this day, after I have considered many times with my next watch, I start to have an eyes on Speedmaster with Omega Calibre 9900.
Again, my humble suggestion is buy what you really like and what you really love, disregarding on how simple or sophisticated the watch is. If you see it really fits you nicely, that is the timepiece you really want.
May I say that it has many "functions" but not so "technically complicated"?
Well, I wear the ref. 3520.50 Speedmaster Day-Date every day and I think Omega Calibre 1151 may have many functions, but it is technically simple and, thankfully, reliable in many occasions. It is good movement but nothing so fancy about it, though.
Up to this day, after I have considered many times with my next watch, I start to have an eyes on Speedmaster with Omega Calibre 9900.
Again, my humble suggestion is buy what you really like and what you really love, disregarding on how simple or sophisticated the watch is. If you see it really fits you nicely, that is the timepiece you really want.
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03Hemi
·Thank you.
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Chef40
·I think the best watch for timekeeping I’ve ever owned was a vintage speedmaster mark ii. When they re released it I bought the newer one as it had the added date but prefered the vintage one as manual wind. Have looked at the moonwatch many times but would want a birth year one and they are quite expensive and I wouldn’t know how original everything was as no expert
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M'Bob
·Al, simply put: do complicated movements engender more complicated questions, and thus more simple answers? Or the converse? And, please, do not skirt this question.
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mjb
·One should never buy a watch hoping that it will go up in value. Buy it because you like it and want to wear and enjoy it.
Me, I like shiny and new, and although I'm not against used or vintage, lately I've been buying new. I got a new sapphire sandwich for around $4200 gray last month.
Me, I like shiny and new, and although I'm not against used or vintage, lately I've been buying new. I got a new sapphire sandwich for around $4200 gray last month.
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03Hemi
·True, but it's great when you get in on one for a steal and it has the propensity to go up? Win, Win!
But, your right, just buy what you like.
But, your right, just buy what you like.
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PhilF
·Hey guys,
Recently I got into vintage pieces of various makes and have/am working on scratching that itch. But, while Omega has and always will be my first love, there is one model I've never owned or dealt much with, contemporary or vintage: THE SPEEDMASTER
I admit, my preferences have always run to relative simplicity, time/date or strictly time, with chronographs usually being of peripheral, if any interest. Seamasters of the last 30 or so years have been my main focus. But, thanks to a friend and all the amazing eye candy and knowledge here on the forum, I've decided that some time in the next few months, certainly after the new year, it's time to add a Speedmaster.
I would like to keep it fairly contemporary to begin at least. My goal is a reasonably attainable (sub 5k U.S.) piece suitable for regular wear. I'd prefer manual but won't outright discount an automatic. 38-40mm tends to sit best on my wrist, but I'm flexible.
So, to begin what I'm certain will be the start of a new journey down the rabbit hole of collecting, what would you guys recommend of the following:
1- Start simple and least costly with a decent used 'Reduced'.
2- Go a bit more with a new 'First Watch in Space' edition.
3- Try the larger size and go for a solid pre-owned Pro.
Having seen and tried on all three in one variation or another, I lean towards option 2, but I'm also open to other ideas. And thanks!
Really understand your dilemma and decision tree. I have a 7" wrist and the "standard" 42mm Speedmaster fits fine, really my favourite watch. I too considered a Reduced, but wanted a date function. The reduced, I am told, is a hybrid, or a "stacked" movement with the chronograph added to a regular movement (Archer, please correct me if I'm stating this incorrectly) it's ok, but not ideal. If you can find one that has verified servicing or at a price that will allow for a service, it's a neat watch.
I'm currently considering, what I consider an "updated" reduced, a 324.30.38.50.01.001 which has 18mm lug width, opening up some strap options, as my "2nd" Speedmaster, worth a look....good luck with your search!
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rainking
·Hey guys,
Recently I got into vintage pieces of various makes and have/am working on scratching that itch. But, while Omega has and always will be my first love, there is one model I've never owned or dealt much with, contemporary or vintage: THE SPEEDMASTER
I admit, my preferences have always run to relative simplicity, time/date or strictly time, with chronographs usually being of peripheral, if any interest. Seamasters of the last 30 or so years have been my main focus. But, thanks to a friend and all the amazing eye candy and knowledge here on the forum, I've decided that some time in the next few months, certainly after the new year, it's time to add a Speedmaster.
I would like to keep it fairly contemporary to begin at least. My goal is a reasonably attainable (sub 5k U.S.) piece suitable for regular wear. I'd prefer manual but won't outright discount an automatic. 38-40mm tends to sit best on my wrist, but I'm flexible.
So, to begin what I'm certain will be the start of a new journey down the rabbit hole of collecting, what would you guys recommend of the following:
1- Start simple and least costly with a decent used 'Reduced'.
2- Go a bit more with a new 'First Watch in Space' edition.
3- Try the larger size and go for a solid pre-owned Pro.
Having seen and tried on all three in one variation or another, I lean towards option 2, but I'm also open to other ideas. And thanks!
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PhilF
·Agree, with a 5k budget, a visit to an OD to take a test drive is a good choice, I did that and got a new Hesalite Speedmaster on a bracelet with all the swag for 4100, added an Omega deployant leather strap for 295. Look at all you can and don't settle. Buy once, cry once. BTY, the regular Speedy wears a bit smaller than you might imagine.
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rainking
·Just as one example. I bought my own new Speedmaster from Kringkily a couple of years ago and he was great to deal with. You don't even need a $5K budget:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/2019-omega-speedmaster-professional-311-30-42-30-01-005.101711/
https://omegaforums.net/threads/2019-omega-speedmaster-professional-311-30-42-30-01-005.101711/
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