Seeking info on an Omega Geneve Dynamic online purchase.

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I had been looking to by a Geneve Dynamic and saw this watch offered online. I was captivated by the deep black face so I purchased it. The watch has a round face rather than the oval face of the Dynamics that I've seen.

I haven't seen another one like it and was hoping that someone might be able to tell me a bit more about it.

I have not removed the back because I don't feel qualified to do that. (I will, if it's safe, in order to get photos of the mechanism . . . but I'm concerned about breaking any seal.)

The watch face measures 1-5/8" from the crown. The watch is approximately 1/2" thick (including the crystal). The crown has the raised Omega logo.

I think the crystal is plastic? Not sure.

The back of the watch is marked "T00 10 Waterproof".

The band is marked "32 Stainless Steel 1317/378".

The days are in German.

Hopefully someone has information on the model and the date of manufacture.

The watch was purchased on eBay from an apparently reputable dealer. Obviously, I hope it is authentic.

Thanks in advance! (My first post.)
 
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Morning !
Is this a Dynamic ..? looks very different from those we see everyday .. very thick, dial looks redone .. and if it is a Dynamic, you cannot open it from the back .. it goes open by removing the Xtal .. you can only demount the back part that keeps the bracelet in position..
 
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I’ve not seen this reference before. Genèves cover a wide range of references and although this has a similar dial and hands to the Dynamic in my avatar, the case is too thick and lacks the oval shape that is the hallmark of the design.

Genève has no grave accent on the second E, can’t see Swiss Made (though photos aren’t the best) and the Omega logo doesn’t look right to me, but I’ve not looked closely enough to know if this is a known variant. Date window also doesn’t look right to me - I would expect a SS lining to the aperture if the day and date are side by side.

It will be interesting to see what the experts say!
 
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The back is actually marked Tool 107 & Waterproof as are other Dynamics.

I don't know what to make of that. It has a lot that looks right but the case shape is very odd and the dial gives me concerns. I wonder could it be a heavily modified machined down regular Dynamic Gen 1. The way to tell for sure is to check the case number but you'll need to get the movement removed to see that.

I have serious doubts that left the factory that way. If it did, it is certainly rare but my money is on a mangled regular oval case Dynamic Gen 1, probably with a redial. Note on the regular Dynamic, the case may be oval, but the dial is circular, like this...
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The back is actually marked Tool 107 & Waterproof as are other Dynamics.

I wonder could it be a heavily modified machined down regular Dynamic Gen 1. The way to tell for sure is to check the case humber but you'll need to get the movement removed to see that. I have doubts that left the factory that way. if it did, it is certainly rare but my money is on a mangled regular oval case Dynamic Gen 1

I would be really wary of this watch, unless someone has one that is the same and can show it on here. @padders is right about the dials being circular, and the handset looks right for a Dynamic, as I’ve said. I’m really not sure about the case though - I’ve tried to photo the side of my Mk I and I just can’t see how an original case could be made to look like the OP's side view.



Mk I dials would have a different Omega logo and the accent on Genève, too...

I wouldn’t be queuing up to buy this. What’s the asking price?
 
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OP - you may want to add you photos to the thread thats running now called Omega Dynamic reference database
 
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Thanks for the responses. As noted, I have been looking to buy a Dynamic for some time and have become familiar with a number of the variants. Based mainly on what I've seen offered online as well as looking at one locally (a watch which is currently listed on Etsy).

This one was advertised by an overseas eBay seller with excellent reviews who specializes in high quality watches. Although it didn't look quite like the others, I particularly liked the looks of it (and I do, it certainly doesn't look "mangled" to me) so I bought the watch.

The watch listing text:


OMEGA DYNAMIC GENEVE AUTOMATIC CAL.752 REF.166.079 DAY DATE MENS 38mm SWISS MADE

BRAND:OMEGA

MODEL:GENEVE

GANDER:MENS

MOVEMENT:AUTOMATIC SWISS MADE

CALIBER:752

REFERENCE:166.079

FUNCIONS:WATCH,DAY DATE

JEWELS:24 JEWELS

DIAL:ORIGINAL OMEGA BLACK BEAUTIFUL

GLASS - PLASTIC

CASE:STAINLESS STEEL

BRACALET : 8 inc STAINLESS STEEL ORIGINAL OMEGA

SIZE:with crown:41mm

Without crown:38mm

Including lugs:42.5mm

Thickness:12mm

CONDITION:IN EXELLENT CONDITION! SERVICE JUST MADE !

Naturally, I was nervous buying from an overseas seller but the watch was shipped immediately and arrived within a week from Albania (to Missouri).

If the consensus here is that the watch is fake I will return it and buy an average Dynamic. Although I certainly do like the looks of this watch I do not want to wear something that isn't what it purports to be.

I may be able to take the watch to a very reputable repair facility here in St. Louis this week to have them give it a look.

Until then, I do appreciate the information that may become available on this one.

(I'm surprised someone is complaining about the photos . . . I mean, WTH? If these aren't good photos I don't know what you expect.)
 
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Congratulations .. what matters is the fact you like the watch whatever it is actually !
 
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(I'm surprised someone is complaining about the photos . . . I mean, WTH? If these aren't good photos I don't know what you expect.)
Apologies, @Fyve By Fyve - I wasn’t clear. It’s not the quality of the photos, more the angle the dial was at, making it hard to see if the “Swiss Made” text was at the base of it.

If you like the watch and price was good for you, then you should wear it and enjoy it, as @malilis has said.
 
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The case number 166079 is listed as follows:

DIAMETER : 41.50 MM

You might want to ask the seller what the diameter of the case is, not including the crown.

My feeling is that this is an original Dynamic case that has been heavily modified, so it will come up short of the 41.5 mm diameter.
 
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Ah, no worries. I will definitely take further photos from more helpful angles if it assists in identifying this watch. The "Swiss Made" text is definitely there. However, in looking closer there is one thing that does immediately concern me. The "6" and "12" positions are slightly off-center. They appear to be skewed slightly to the right. I've included a photo to show this. What to make of that?

I do like the looks of this watch and I hope it is "as advertised". However, I have no desire to wear a fake. If this watch is not legit I will have to initiate a return.
 
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Archer, I have a feeling you might be right. I don't mind having a legitimate Omega that has been modified . . . if it's done well. However, now that I've seen the misaligned dial . . . ugh . . . not sure how to feel about that.
 
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Archer, I have a feeling you might be right. I don't mind having a legitimate Omega that has been modified . . . if it's done well. However, now that I've seen the misaligned dial . . . ugh . . . not sure how to feel about that.

Honestly, there's enough going on here that I would pass on it personally, but of course it's up to you...
 
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Do you think this is an original dial? It looks so strange to me
 
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Here’s another watch that I was considering from the same seller. I now notice the misaligned dial on this one as well. Is this a common thing or is it an indication of something not quite right?
 
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One thing I do know about collecting vintage watches is that they are rarely perfect. Many seem to have been monkeyed with (repaired?) in one way or another. For example, I looked at a locally offered Dynamic by a very professional shop (Timekeepers in St. Louis). This watch did not have an Omega crown. I’m sure this fact would cause many in the online world to call it all sorts of things. Yet, I’m confident that it is a genuine watch, with some . . . history. It was/is appropriately priced. I didn’t buy it because I do want that crown (and gold isn’t really my color), but it’s still a nice watch.

I didn’t pay a sum that I can’t afford to lose with this particular watch and if it checks out for the most part, I will keep it.

if it doesn’t, well . . . I suppose I may return it or sell it as-is.

I think it is a beautiful and unique watch. I just want to feel confident that it isn’t a beautiful fugazi.
 
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Must say, my first post here has succeeded in making me despise my new watch.

It’s apparently “mangled” and “looks strange”.

Probably fake.

Wonderful.

mission accomplished.
 
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Must say, my first post here has succeeded in making me despise my new watch.

It’s apparently “mangled” and “looks strange”.

Probably fake.

Wonderful.

Mission accomplished.

I’ve written the seller to see if he has any further information on the watch. If not, and in the light of the fact that the experts suggest that it is an ugly watch at best and a forgery at worst, I’ll request a return.
 
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Don’t shoot the messenger. Mangled was perhaps a poor choice of word which has clearly grated on you but had you searched on the details the seller gave you before buying (especially the case number) you would have seen that what you bought has been heavily modified and looks nothing like any other. This is a collector forum and even the smallest changes from the original look are remarked on. The cut down case is not a small change and isn’t easily remedied whereas a crown can often be replaced. Nowhere that I can see has anyone above suggested the watch is fake.

You chose to buy what is presumably one of your first vintage Omegas from an eBay seller in Albania, which would also not be a course of action many would recommend without doing your homework first. Hopefully you will have some recourse but it may not be straight forward.

I am not sure what mission you feel has been accomplished other than enlightening you to the true state of your purchase, which is presumably why you asked in first place. If you would have preferred a sugar coated version then I am sorry that isn’t how it played out, but the message wouldn’t have been dramatically different.

ps the dial isn’t misaligned, the whole head has rotated slightly in the bracelet ring, it should be easy to line it up.
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