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  1. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Aug 19, 2012

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    Hi guys, I am still hunting my first piepan. I have narrowed the search to 3 options for now and will like to seek your opinions on them.

    A) http://www.ebay.com/itm/330778917136?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    B) http://www.ebay.com/itm/290755888744?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    C) http://www.ebay.com/itm/230837781364?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    Like to hear your thoughts on them and really appreciate your help. Thanks.
     
  2. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    # 1 real, honest watch, will need service despite what Hess says. They are OK to buy from but what you see is what you get. They usually show the movement in their ads, would call them and ask about it, they are easy to reach by phone.

    # 2. fake watch. Don't buy a fake what and end up in a roadside ditch. :thumbsdown:

    #3. Real, but very polished and the dial is bubbling, :thumbsdown:
     
  3. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    #1 is only one I would consider. #2 is fake and #3 is overpolished. If you have the budget, wait for an even better example.
     
  4. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Aug 19, 2012

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    The #1 looks like a redial to me. (or swapped from another model)

    Avoid !!!
     
  5. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    I don't see anything wrong with it Hoi. Don't just throw that out, what is it you find not correct or from another watch. If it is from another watch, what model, and why not this one? There is a big difference between genuine on another watch, and a redial. You can't say redial or real on wrong watch. And Hoi, I say all this because I have the utmost respect for your opinion.
    This seller here has a reputation of just buying from original owners or estates.
     
  6. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    Interesting...
     
  7. Steve Aug 19, 2012

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    Can you please explain why #2 is such a fake, just so I know what to look out for ?. Thanks.
     
  8. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Aug 19, 2012

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    I was a little suspicious with #2 as I did not think it passed the MOY test. But did not expect it to be a fake. Still learning to spot redials and how can I tell from the pictures it's a fake? Thanks in advance.
     
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  9. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    I had no clue honestly... these guys have an eye for it, had to laugh re-reading #2's description then:

     
  10. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Aug 19, 2012

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    I have earlier asked for pics of the movement. This is what Hess said, "The movement is sealed and we have not and do not intend to open it." Isn't that a little weird?
     
  11. Gavin It's the quiet ones you have to 'watch' out for. Aug 19, 2012

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    Me too ;)
     
  12. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    Yes it is as they often and usually do open them to ascertain the watches condition and as the claim to service them.
     
  13. bob martian Aug 19, 2012

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    #1 dial seems to have a luminous dot painted to the right of the date, where on #3 it is another, shorter, metal hour marker. #2 has at least been redialed and they used black paint instead of the white luminous paint. Also #2 the star emblem is crooked. I am not sure any of them have the correct crown.
     
  14. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    The date surround is not chamfered and not Omega. There are holes in the dial that don't line up with the Omega logo. The script is wrong. The finish is wrong, inconsistent. No Tritium except hands, not enough for 2 Ts
     
  15. dsio Ash @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    So you're suggesting that his dad did not in fact buy it in 1965 lol
     
  16. bob martian Aug 19, 2012

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    I really think that the paint beside the date is incorrect and there should be a shorter hour maker as shown on #3
     
  17. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    You have that reversed. Assuming that A is 1, B is 2 and C is 3.
     
  18. hoipolloi Vintage Omega Connoisseur Aug 19, 2012

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  19. bob martian Aug 19, 2012

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    Who's on first? What's on second?
     
  20. MSNWatch Vintage Omega Aficionado Staff Member Aug 19, 2012

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    Gavin:
    Desmond's articles including the ones on fakes are really must reading before delving into constellations. Advice given here about specific examples make more sense once you have the basic foundation provided by those articles.