Seamaster what year is this dial?

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CaliberKingPin

·Mar 19, 2021

Hello everyone,

I am just wondering if I am getting this right? I'm trying to date this dial?

I went to the Omega site and as far as I can tell by the indices and the words this dial should be a fifties vintage? Is that right? I can't find the exact dial on Omega but the closest ones seem to be in the fifties?

thx

This is close but not the same minute markers and two tone but would this dial be around this time? Same arrows and number pattern and same Seamaster logo?

 

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hoipolloi

·Mar 19, 2021·Vintage Omega Connoisseur

I would say 1954 to 1956.

 

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tdn-dk

·Mar 19, 2021

If the movement belongs to the dial You can find the year from the serialnumber on the movement.

 

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CaliberKingPin

·Mar 19, 2021

I don’t think the movement belongs to the dial it’s a 286 and I tried looking up based on movement and the dials that came with that movement did not match.

 

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tdn-dk

·Mar 19, 2021

CaliberKingPin

I don’t think the movement belongs to the dial it’s a 286 and I tried looking up based on movement and the dials that came with that movement did not match.

There are only one shown dial variation of each reference i the Omega Vintage Database. For every reference there several different dial variations normally.

 

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DaveK

·Mar 19, 2021·Yoda of Yodelers

CaliberKingPin

... Same arrows and number pattern and same Seamaster logo?

The Seamaster font is different in the two you’ve shown. Note the coat hangar S on yours, and the rounded S from the Omgea archive. I always thought that the coat hangar S was late 50s early 60s, but someone else will know more detail

 

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Rudi99

·Mar 19, 2021

@CaliberKingPin , the image for comparison you took from the Omega archive is for a 2767 reference. It is a Seamaster reference with bumper movement and yours is a handwind movement, surely not the 2767 as it came only with bumper movements.


And like said above, the images found at the archive are just one example of many many more other possible dial variations.

It will be hard to give you a very specific year without knowing the movement and/or serial number!

 

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seekingseaquest

·Mar 19, 2021

@hoipolloi is probably right on date-wise. This dial variant both as a manual wind and an automatic came in several different references, though.

 

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CaliberKingPin

·Mar 19, 2021

Thanks guys.

The problem is Rudi the dial does not go with the movement I’m almost certain of this so I can’t use the serial number to date the dial.

When I decode the serial number it tells me the movement is from 1962 which does not match any of the dials from that year when I look on Omegas website.

 

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X350 XJR

·Mar 19, 2021·Vintage Omega Aficionado

Don't count on the Omega website for much of anything, especially dials. There could be a dozen or more dials for a given reference or movement.

 

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Dan S

·Mar 19, 2021

CaliberKingPin

The problem is Rudi the dial does not go with the movement I’m almost certain of this so I can’t use the serial number to date the dial.

When I decode the serial number it tells me the movement is from 1962 which does not match any of the dials from that year when I look on Omegas website.

I wouldn't be so sure. You really can't use the OVD for the type of research you are attempting. Are you sure the movement isn't original? Are you sure you have the right year for the movement?

It would be more helpful if you could just give all the information you have instead of parsing it out bit by bit. What is the serial number on the movement?

 

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padders

·Mar 19, 2021·Oooo subtitles!

So is this a movement and relatively junky dial that has come out of a scrapped gold watch? What is your plan for it? If you want the full lowdown, like the man says above, give us full disclosure, pictures of the movement will help.

 

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CaliberKingPin

·Mar 19, 2021

Here is the whole story,

Bought the movement off of ebay was considering using it for parts but when I received the movement and dial the dial was actually in better shape then the pictures showed on ebay and the movement is in really good shape runs well, very poor pictures on ebay listing. I am in no way saying dial is a nice dial don't get me wrong it is not.

My plans for this movement have changed and I would now like try to build a watch for my 11 year old son out of this dial and movement.

That's the whole story nothing to hide.

So I am trying to figure out the date of the dial so I can try to source hands and then a case.

I think the dial does not go with movement by looking on Omega site and not being able to find this dial in 1962 the movement year is based on the serial number the decoder which shows 1962.

If anyone has insight in what hands go with the dial and which case model number go with it I would greatly appreciate the help.

Thank you for your help.

 

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CaliberKingPin

·Mar 20, 2021

Does anyone have any thoughts on the if the dial is matched to the caliber?

Or are they mismatched?


Thx

 

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CaliberKingPin

·Mar 20, 2021

I have been going through Ebay to try to find a something close to that dial and this is the closest I have been able to find so far.

The dial is very close the S in Seamaster is sightly different, it's an automatic, at the bottom it only says Swiss instead of Swiss made and the Ebay one has lime dots on the numbers. So a few differences but closest I have been able to find so far.

Most of the examples of this dial I have only been able to find in an automatic.

Did Omega offer a lot of their vintage watches in both automatic and manual?

Thanks for your help.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/RARE-EX-Ome...ls-Cal-470-14KGF-1950s-men-watch/224286179899

 

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seekingseaquest

·Mar 20, 2021

seekingseaquest

@hoipolloi is probably right on date-wise. This dial variant both as a manual wind and an automatic came in several different references, though.

As mentioned here, this dial could have come in several different references and trying to figure out which case the dial fits in will be a challenge. Not a challenge I would personally undertake for a dial that isn’t all that attractive.

 

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CaliberKingPin

·Mar 20, 2021

Thanks,

Your right great advice so for what Im planning I should probably just stick it in a 30mm case and slap some 286 cal hands on it.

Appreciate the insight sometimes one can lose sight of the objective! lol

 

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Dan S

·Mar 20, 2021

As noted above, the original case was probably gold, but it will look fine in a SS case with the correct color crown.

 

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hoipolloi

·Mar 20, 2021·Vintage Omega Connoisseur

Lots of headaches are waiting for you.
First, you have to find a water proof case for it then a 28X movement coming with a retaining ring, a waterproof crown and a set of correct lengh hands with lume stripes.


Why don't you collect dials only?