Chronometer Movement Cal 564, not Constellation but Seamaster...




@dennis & dsio : waiting for 14K or 18 K...me just have the Steel

 

What's the case reference number on that? It looks a lot like a 166.010 with that shape of lugs, but the 564 was inside the 168.022 to my knowledge.

 

@dsio : Seamaster Cal 552... ?

it reminds me about this one, but with 562 movement...



@dennis : that will be my homework, but I I'm not wrong, the refference is 168.022 or 168.024..
so, where are the 14ks or 18ks...? Think, you must have at least one or two..

 

dsio : I doubt that was a Cal 501, in my opinion Cal 500, 501, 503 stil use Clover Crown CMIIW

this is mine with Cal 552,





Most of My Omegas came with Steel Case, perhaps when I get older Yellow or Pink Gold cases will come among them..

 

Hi! I'm new to the forum and not a watch-fanatic but I have an Omega watch that I would like to know more about.

What I know about it is that my dad bought it for himself probably in 1966 in Sweden, and has owned it since. It has seen a lot of wear and has not been serviced as far as I know, but been lying i a drawer since 1990.
It's a Seamaster Chronometer cal 564 which is why the thread title caught my eye. Case reference number CD 168.022 / CD 162.028

I've been looking around the net for more info on this watch but still have some questions. Correct me if I'm wrong but it is a 18K gold "cap" model? I wonder about the dial, is it also gold? I can find no evidence of rust or corrosion on it which might indicate gold?

I've been told that the hands are not original to the watch but have been replaced at some time, but to my knowledge they are the ones that came in the watch originally. I've seen images of watches similar to this both with forforescent hands and with the same plain hands without fosforescence as on my watch. So are the hands original to the watch?

From what I've read the combination of cal 564, chronometer grade in a gold Seamaster is quite rare, and that nearly all 564 movements were fitted in Constellation. Read somewhere that only 1000 pcs were made but that might be the day/date version. Anyone know more about this?

When serching Omegas vintage database it shows another reference number; BA 368.0831. What does this number stand for? And what are the case numbers CD 168.022 and CD 166.028? Why two different numbers?

About the year of manufacture, som tables I've seen show that serial numbers 25.000.000 did not hit the market until 1967. Is it still possible that my dad purchased this watch in 1966 as I suspect? I have also read that the cal 564 was created in 1965, so it might be possible or am I wrong?

Regarding the condition of the watch, as i said it's seen a lot of wear. The movement looses about 130 sec/day. The crown is very worn and the stem is a bit loose. The glass is fairly scratched and there are some dings and scratches on the case and bottom.

Lastly (if not against forum policy) I would of course like get at least an idea of the value of the watch, if there are any such estimations to be made. Particularly if a service would be a wise investment before an eventual sale of the watch.

Any information you can give this Omega newbie would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers from Sweden
/Cyberik

 

Hello and welcome! Nice pictures of a nice watch.

Yes, it's a gold capped model. It has a layer of gold that's more than 200 microns thick over stainless steel. If the dial were solid gold, it would read OM - SWISS MADE - OM at the bottom I think.

Yes, they are original. You have the non-lume versions which are a little less common. You can tell they're original to the watch because if there was lume on the hands & dial there would be T - SWISS MADE - T at the bottom or at least one T on either side of SWISS MADE - this depends on the amount of luminous tritium used.

I can't tell you for sure about the rarity as we do see them quite often. It's possible the solid gold models were rare, but probably not the gold capped and stainless versions.

The 3 in 368.0831 means it came on a bracelet from the factory. The 166.028 is the base version with a non-chronometer caliber 565 and the 168.022 is the upgraded chronometer 564 version you have.

The 564 was used for several years into the 70's, not just in 1965. I show the serial number of 25 million from 1967 also.

It can be spiffed up and it needs to be serviced. Don't wind it because you can damage the internals since the lubricants have definitely dried up.

Right now you could probably get $325-ish for it. Serviced, I've seen these sell for $550-ish or a little more depending on condition. Jesse / omega564 does a bang up job on these. He made my 751 chronometer version of the same watch look nearly new. You can start a conversation with him using his screen name or contact him via e-mail a [email protected] and ask for an estimate.

Good luck!

 

Nice watch...
by now, I think a Seamaster Chronometer is rarer than a constellation

 

Thanks a lot for the info!

 

What do you think about this one?


Is it common to have 2 ref numbers? Can you recommend some good Seamaster reference database?
https://www.omegawatches.com/vintage-watches?reference=166.010

 

Hope i´m in

 

Can't see much on the dial, but otherwise the watch looks nice. It's quite normal for vintage Omega watch to have 2 reference numbers on the case back, especially these 2.

 

There's a big gap between the dial and chapter ring. This indicates the rubber balls and case spring are gone. The watch will feel loose inside if it's true, since the dial and movement are not tightened to anything.