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Hi

I am looking to buy this vintage seamaster calendar. I wondered whether you can tell an extreme amateur whether you think it is a redial or if anything else is wrong with it - are the batons right for example? The seller is fairly open on his website where dials are redials etc and this is not said to be one. It is also said to be all original, including the original glass.

thanks

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Does it have a picture of the inside of the caseback where the numbers are? It looks like an earlier version of the 166.009. Dials vary but there's nothing on this dial that I find suspicious.
 
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Should be a 2849. It’s a redial. Case heavily polished. Incorrect crown. Not a great watch for a collector.
 
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But, if you’re not too bothered (now or in the future) about originality, and the price is reasonable, and you’re not hoping to recoup your expenditure at some stage, it’s a pretty watch that you’ll enjoy wearing.
 
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Should be a 2849. It’s a redial. Case heavily polished. Incorrect crown. Not a great watch for a collector.
Why do you think so?
 
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2849. As Phil stated its a redial, wrong crown. Crystal is also incorrect. Thumbs down on this one.
 
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seekingseaquest seekingseaquest
Should be a 2849. It’s a redial. Case heavily polished. Incorrect crown. Not a great watch for a collector.
I’m also curious why you think so? Not doubting your expertise, but seller’s website is very open about what parts of the watch are replaced etc and on this watch it doesn’t say anything. I specifically asked about the dial and he said it wasn’t a redial.
 
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The S font in Seamaster is not one that was used by Omega - yes, there are similar ones but not this precise font. The rest of the Seamaster text is sloppy. The calendar font is too close to Seamaster. On non-luminous arrowhead dials, the small dashes on the outside of each 5-minute marker should be dots, not dashes. Sunburst finish is often, not always, a tell on watches from this era as well.

In summary, look at more of these and you’ll start to notice small discrepancies.
 
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As this is a model I actually own, the 166.010, it looks good with the following caveats: that's the wrong bracelet and it doesn't fit worth a damn, and the crown is a replacement. Since the original crown has been discontinued for a long time, that's common.
 
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As this is a model I actually own, the 166.010, it looks good with the following caveats: that's the wrong bracelet and it doesn't fit worth a damn, and the crown is a replacement. Since the original crown has been discontinued for a long time, that's common.
Thanks. One more for luck (those are then the three I was torn between)
 
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But, if you’re not too bothered (now or in the future) about originality, and the price is reasonable, and you’re not hoping to recoup your expenditure at some stage, it’s a pretty watch that you’ll enjoy wearing.
What’s reasonable in your view if it’s a redial?
 
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So you are ready to pay a premium buying from grey market than just take a look in Private Sales section here where you can find pieces with realistic prices and honest descriptions?

No offense but seems you are really impatient buying any vintage omega you see on your pc screen!

Good luck!
 
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So you are ready to pay a premium buying from grey market than just take a look in Private Sales section here where you can find pieces with realistic prices and honest descriptions?

No offense but seems you are really impatient buying any vintage omega you see on your pc screen!

Good luck!
Offence taken. You have no idea how long I have been looking and how many watches I have looked at in order, from an inexperienced perspective, to find one
 
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What’s reasonable in your view if it’s a redial?

'Reasonable' to you …… 😀
 
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Offence taken. You have no idea how long I have been looking and how many watches I have looked at in order, from an inexperienced perspective, to find one
I think the point was that watches sold here, you don't have to wonder about, and the prices are better. There is no way anyone is getting away with shenanigans when there's many people who will call "nonense!" if it's warranted. The prices are better because these are person-to-person sales, no need to factor in the costs a store must bear. Note we have two sales forums, one for dealers and one for private individual sellers.
 
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As this is a model I actually own, the 166.010, it looks good with the following caveats: that's the wrong bracelet and it doesn't fit worth a damn, and the crown is a replacement. Since the original crown has been discontinued for a long time, that's common.
Given that you have one you seem ideal to ask. Do you think the watch is in good condition? Anything in particular that concerns you at all?
 
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Should be a 2849. It’s a redial. Case heavily polished. Incorrect crown. Not a great watch for a collector.
Thoughts on this one given you picked up on the other so quickly? It looks good to my eye the only bit that looked slightly off was the alignment of the 6 hour baton to the minute marker either side. (Wasn’t sure whether the writing on seamaster was a little to loopy either.) it’s from 69
 
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