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  1. Psyche524

    Psyche524 Apr 25, 2018

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    ive had my eye on this for a few weeks, but I know that black dials are often touched up. I’ve had a look at the surface of the dial through a magnifying glass and it looks right to me. Just wondering if you guys can pick any red flags up before I buy it. I’ve tried to get pictures in different light, so there’s quite a few. Black dials seem to be particularly hard to photograph as each spec of dust on the crystal shows. As always, thanks for any comments given.

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  2. Psyche524

    Psyche524 Apr 25, 2018

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    Maybe the minute markers have been touched up?
     
  3. Interstellar

    Interstellar Apr 25, 2018

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    I vote Redial
     
  4. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Apr 25, 2018

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    Badly refinished, run away!

    There is no lume but there Ts, SWISS MADE lettering too widely spaced, the figures have been polished and have lost their crispness.
     
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  5. Psyche524

    Psyche524 Apr 25, 2018

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    Ok that’s good enough for me, thanks
     
  6. Davidt

    Davidt Apr 25, 2018

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    100% redial.
     
  7. Psyche524

    Psyche524 Apr 25, 2018

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    Quick question for future reference. You mentioned that there’s T’s either side of Swiss Made but no lume. Do T’s mean that there should be lume on the hands?
     
  8. Davidt

    Davidt Apr 25, 2018

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    On watches c.1963 onwards (up to the 90's), 't Swiss Made t' indicated tritium lume, so there should be lume at the hour markers and on the hands.
    I believe XJR was referring to the dial not the hands though. The hands do have cut outs for lume, although it is missing in places.

    Confusingly some 70's Geneves had lume but no 't'.
     
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  9. Davidt

    Davidt Apr 25, 2018

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    For me the obvious tells here are:

    The overall thickness (too thick) and quality of the print.
    Text is far too white.
    Minute hashes are poorly done. Look at the 12 to 1 minute markers. They are crooked and uneven. You don't see that on an original dial.
    The condition of the hour markers.
     
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  10. Psyche524

    Psyche524 Apr 25, 2018

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    Yes I have to agree, I guess I wanted it to be right a bit too much as it is pretty cheap. Now I know why. Whilst you are on line, I have one other that I’ve had my eye on. I’ll post it on another thread, if you could cast your eye over it, that would be great. Much appreciated!

    Chris
     
  11. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Apr 25, 2018

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    First off, it is a redial. A shitty one to boot. Don Draper syndrome strikes again!

    Second, look at the different colors of the plating on the movement's bridges. It's a franken as well.

    Overall, this is an obvious pass. I mean on the watch, but not for our OP - he fails today's quiz.
     
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  12. Psyche524

    Psyche524 Apr 25, 2018

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    Thanks ULF, I don’t follow you about the OP bit though?
     
  13. ulackfocus

    ulackfocus Apr 25, 2018

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    OP = Original Poster (as in thread starter) or Original Post (as in first post in the thread).

    Just busting your stones a little. ;) We like when new members ask before they buy. :thumbsup: Saves everyone some hassle and hard feelings.
     
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  14. Psyche524

    Psyche524 Apr 25, 2018

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    Haha got you. Yeah, I’m pretty new to this but I’ve looked at literally hundreds of vintage omegas, mainly on line. Still can’t see the woods for the trees. But I’m learning
     
  15. amanson

    amanson Apr 25, 2018

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    Good catch! That spacing does look really strange. But the fact that it says that with no lume anywhere is a giveaway.
     
  16. X350 XJR

    X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Apr 25, 2018

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    Here is a correct one.

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  17. Psyche524

    Psyche524 Apr 25, 2018

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    Stunning! No comparison really.
     
  18. Edward53

    Edward53 Apr 25, 2018

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    That one you posted has got black paint splashed all over the hour markers, which a real black dial obviously should not have. Always blow the image up as far as you can.
     
  19. Brendon

    Brendon Apr 25, 2018

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    If you are looking for your first omega I would recommend you keep a close watch on the private sales forum here. You are less likely to get burnt and not everything is hugely expensive.
     
  20. Noles_88

    Noles_88 Dog costume designer extraordinaire! Apr 25, 2018

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