Seamaster 2577 crosshair black dial - something wrong I'm not seeing?

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Olhenry56

·Jul 25, 2022

Hi all. I keep seeing, considering, and deciding against this black dial 2577 cal. 351 on eBay, mostly because I need to chill out with my purchases a bit right now 😀.






The watch is obviously not in great condition. The dial and movement are both tired to say the least. The case seems honest. I don't think the crown is original (could be wrong). It's certainly not of interest to collectors, but these problems seem manageable at the BIN price of 450 USD (now getting an offer of 380 USD from the seller) considering the premium buyers pay for black dials and crosshairs. I've seen non-runners sell for not much less than this. So am I missing something?

Thanks as always for sharing your knowledge with us novices!

 

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Olhenry56

·Jul 25, 2022

The SWISS MADE is just barely visible. Does this indicate the dial is a transplant, or maybe just an incorrect crystal?

 

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MtV

·Jul 25, 2022

Movement isn’t just tired, it’s incomplete (see the regulator). Crown is incorrect. Mostly though, the condition of the dial leaves question marks. Whatever happened to the dirt (glue?) around the omega logo? Very uneven stains too on the rest of it. Hands seem to be of different color?

If this was a dial in nice condition it would’ve sold already. As is, it looks like the watch will need quite some work to still look pretty beaten-up afterwards.

 

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Olhenry56

·Jul 25, 2022

MtV

Movement isn’t just tired, it’s incomplete (see the regulator).

I'm embarrassed to admit I still don't see what's missing. Or is it that the balance cock is such a different color and was likely replaced?

 

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MtV

·Jul 25, 2022

Olhenry56

I'm embarrassed to admit I still don't see what's missing. Or is it that the balance cock is such a different color and was likely replaced?

Compare:

 

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SkunkPrince

·Jul 25, 2022

351 did not come with swan's neck fine regulation.

 

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Nupero

·Jul 25, 2022

For me, the damage around Omega logo (which the strategically placed minute hand partially covers - classic move) would be a turn off.

 

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Nepomuceño

·Jul 25, 2022

It’s a shame that the dial is in rough shape. Case looks very honest indeed.

 

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Olhenry56

·Jul 25, 2022

I've looked at this watch 100 times and JUST NOW realized the hour hand does not appear to be gold.

Here's the link, by the way, if anyone happens to be interested in it. The seller offered it for $350 now.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2751694560...rentrq:365817b51820a21958a12e04fff8c906|iid:1

 

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MtV

·Jul 25, 2022

SkunkPrince

351 did not come with swan's neck fine regulation.

Cheers for clearing that up, that's what happens when you reply in between other chores I guess. Mea culpa and sorry for the confusion.

 

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Olhenry56

·Jul 25, 2022

Out of curiosity and to help me understand better, was that a photo of a 344 or 355 that you shared?

 

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MtV

·Jul 25, 2022

Olhenry56

Out of curiosity and to help me understand better, was that a photo of a 344 or 355 that you shared?

In case you meant me, that’s a cal. 354, the successor of the 351.

 

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Elipside

·Jul 25, 2022

The stem seems bent as well. I doubt this would have damage the movement and it might be easily replaced (no idea tbh), but that what I could notice.