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·I wondered if anyone could cast and eye on this Seamaster to see if they think the dial is original? Not very confident in my abilities with vintage watches yet. Many thanks!
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Seamaster 166.003
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··Sunburst dial fanIt looks fine to me but I’m not an OF dial expert.
I attach a photo of my 165.003 of about the same vintage and the key issues seem the same.
One difference is that mine has lume and I rather suspect that the lume on the tips of my hands was a homemade application which I hope to get removed at some stage.
But that apart I’d say yours looks good
I attach a photo of my 165.003 of about the same vintage and the key issues seem the same.
One difference is that mine has lume and I rather suspect that the lume on the tips of my hands was a homemade application which I hope to get removed at some stage.
But that apart I’d say yours looks good
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·It looks fine to me but I’m not an OF dial expert.
I attach a photo of my 165.003 of about the same vintage and the key issues seem the same.
One difference is that mine has lume and I rather suspect that the lume on the tips of my hands was a homemade application which I hope to get removed at some stage.
But that apart I’d say yours looks good
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·Dial looks original to me.
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·+1 on original dial.
Just a heads-up though, the bezel seems to be refinished - it seems whoever had the operation done forgot to have the brushing reapplied to the tops of the lugs. Also, the second hand is a service replacement, and the glass may be aftermarket considering I can't see an Omega logo in the center of the glass with the picture. I'd be very careful what you pay for this one.
Just a heads-up though, the bezel seems to be refinished - it seems whoever had the operation done forgot to have the brushing reapplied to the tops of the lugs. Also, the second hand is a service replacement, and the glass may be aftermarket considering I can't see an Omega logo in the center of the glass with the picture. I'd be very careful what you pay for this one.
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·It’s fine. Would want to see a shot in raking sunlight to see if the surface has issues- the lighting is rather subdued- perhaps intentionally.
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·+1 on original dial.
Just a heads-up though, the bezel seems to be refinished - it seems whoever had the operation done forgot to have the brushing reapplied to the tops of the lugs. Also, the second hand is a service replacement, and the glass may be aftermarket considering I can't see an Omega logo in the center of the glass with the picture. I'd be very careful what you pay for this one.
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·Thanks for the opinions. Another view here.
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·Looks like a nice watch- what are they asking?
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Meh- not the worst we have heard of, but not a bargain in the least. Also consider if they don’t provide proof of service (we had “our guy” give it a check-up doesn’t count), then it will need a service which will add £2-400 on top of the watch. If you love it and don’t want to keep looking, then see if you can haggle the price down a bit-I think it’s a pretty honest watch. Otherwise, €1.1-1.3k all in is a bit steep.
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·I hadn’t seen this generation with brushed lugs- not even a brushed bezel, so that’s new on me. OP- we would need more pics to make a more accurate assement- and price is always a factor
Portugal:
As you can see, the original brushing has been disturbed by the Portuguese import mark, which is still as sharp as when first stamped.
Japanese example:
In most cases, it seems like 165-6.003s tend to have been rather overzealously polished - I assume refinishers usually redo the bezel because that's one of the most distinctive design traits of this watch, while the brushing on the lugs doesn't get any attention.
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·Meh- not the worst we have heard of, but not a bargain in the least. Also consider if they don’t provide proof of service (we had “our guy” give it a check-up doesn’t count), then it will need a service which will add £2-400 on top of the watch. If you love it and don’t want to keep looking, then see if you can haggle the price down a bit-I think it’s a pretty honest watch. Otherwise, €1.1-1.3k all in is a bit steep.
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··Sunburst dial fanNice 16*.003s are less common than one would suppose. I look out for them and prefer their dauphine hands to the stick hands of the .002.
At present, stainless steel cases seem to be going for slightly more than gp cases - probably because they can be dressed up or down more easily.
If you have a look at eBay or Chrono24, the price you’re quoting isn’t ridiculous although if you can negotiate down that would be good but, it looks like a nice watch and if you have the opportunity and the funds, you’ll have to make a decision.
It may be a replacement second hand but, if it is, it looks in keeping and may be original. Crystals do get replaced fairly regularly on 60 year old watches.
So far as servicing is concerned, I wouldn’t rush to have it serviced, particularly if the seller says it has been. I’d give it a wear and see how it runs. If it’s defective, then return it but otherwise a service shouldn’t cost a lot. I’m told that 565 and 552 movements are fairly easy to service and parts are easily sourced.
If you’re in the UK and looking for an ‘ordinary' service, you can probably get it done for £125-150 plus parts (and postage).
At present, stainless steel cases seem to be going for slightly more than gp cases - probably because they can be dressed up or down more easily.
If you have a look at eBay or Chrono24, the price you’re quoting isn’t ridiculous although if you can negotiate down that would be good but, it looks like a nice watch and if you have the opportunity and the funds, you’ll have to make a decision.
It may be a replacement second hand but, if it is, it looks in keeping and may be original. Crystals do get replaced fairly regularly on 60 year old watches.
So far as servicing is concerned, I wouldn’t rush to have it serviced, particularly if the seller says it has been. I’d give it a wear and see how it runs. If it’s defective, then return it but otherwise a service shouldn’t cost a lot. I’m told that 565 and 552 movements are fairly easy to service and parts are easily sourced.
If you’re in the UK and looking for an ‘ordinary' service, you can probably get it done for £125-150 plus parts (and postage).
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·Nice 16*.003s are less common than one would suppose. I look out for them and prefer their dauphine hands to the stick hands of the .002.
At present, stainless steel cases seem to be going for slightly more than gp cases - probably because they can be dressed up or down more easily.
If you have a look at eBay or Chrono24, the price you’re quoting isn’t ridiculous although if you can negotiate down that would be good but, it looks like a nice watch and if you have the opportunity and the funds, you’ll have to make a decision.
It may be a replacement second hand but, if it is, it looks in keeping and may be original. Crystals do get replaced fairly regularly on 60 year old watches.
So far as servicing is concerned, I wouldn’t rush to have it serviced, particularly if the seller says it has been. I’d give it a wear and see how it runs. If it’s defective, then return it but otherwise a service shouldn’t cost a lot. I’m told that 565 and 552 movements are fairly easy to service and parts are easily sourced.
If you’re in the UK and looking for an ‘ordinary' service, you can probably get it done for £125-150 plus parts (and postage).
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·On this one i can't work out if this dial has been painted. It just looks too clean. Thanks
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