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Hi, sorry I am unable to post a ppic of this one but I have a couple of questions relating to a 1984 Sea-Dweller which is currently up for sale and I am considering purchasing.

It is a 1665 (year 1984) with a flat plexiglass lens. The case back is difficult to read but it looks like the same as a 16660 in my Rolex reference book "ROLEX OYSTER" "ORIGINAL GAS ESCAPE VALVE".

Asking price is £14k with B&P, mint condition. I would like to know if my brief description would appear to make sense for the year?

I would greatly appreciate any thoughts and apologies again for not being able to include a pic.
 
Faz
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Pics are a must. Based on your description, if you are having trouble reading what's on the case back it's certainly not in mint condition. If the case back is similar to your triple 6 then it's a later less desirable version of the 1665 caseback. Price is very high IMO. Could be mitigated if you have a rail dial on it..Get some pics and you'll have a better assessment form the members here.

Cheers,
 
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Faz Faz
Pics are a must. Based on your description, if you are having trouble reading what's on the case back it's certainly not in mint condition. If the case back is similar to your triple 6 then it's a later less desirable version of the 1665 caseback. Price is very high IMO. Could be mitigated if you have a rail dial on it..Get some pics and you'll have a better assessment form the members here.

Cheers,
Thanks, will try to get some pics
 
brunik
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It's an expensive watch with b&p

Consider an investment.. I have one of 79 and that is a fair market price...

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No pics, no comments. Just kidding. It depends really. If it's truly mint unpolished with all the original chamfers present, with perfectly aged n patinaed dial n hands n fat font faded insert, with the correct box n punched paper, considering it's in UK n hopefully some bargaining, I could see it happening. Before the recent bubble, 1665 r selling around 9 - 10K States side, so it's a tad high but not unreasonable if it's "mint".


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Ricbo2010 Ricbo2010
Hi, sorry I am unable to post a ppic of this one but I have a couple of questions relating to a 1984 Sea-Dweller which is currently up for sale and I am considering purchasing.

It is a 1665 (year 1984) with a flat plexiglass lens. The case back is difficult to read but it looks like the same as a 16660 in my Rolex reference book "ROLEX OYSTER" "ORIGINAL GAS ESCAPE VALVE".

Asking price is £14k with B&P, mint condition. I would like to know if my brief description would appear to make sense for the year?

I would greatly appreciate any thoughts and apologies again for not being able to include a pic.

Well, mint condition means different things to different folks.

But if that is the true condition and price, sounds very reasonable.

For years 1665 full sets have commanded well over $10K...
 
Ricbo2010
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Thanks forum members for your comments. I think I will take a closer look at this one. Will let you know how I get on!
 
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Is a UK 1665 GW set really £14k?

Sounds very expensive to me, and I have one.
 
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Is a UK 1665 GW set really £14k?

Sounds very expensive to me, and I have one.
I would refer you to the @omitohud comment regarding condition and accessories with the set, all things considered, exceptional pieces command the big $$$..
 
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What are the appropriate date ranges for the 1665 and the 16660? Doesn't 1984 seem very late for a 1665? And shouldn't a 1665 have an acrylic crystal?
 
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calalum calalum
What are the appropriate date ranges for the 1665 and the 16660? Doesn't 1984 seem very late for a 1665? And shouldn't a 1665 have an acrylic crystal?

You are absolutely correct!
The OP will need to verify year of production because 1984 would be beyond the 1665, as you mention w/sapphire crystal "triple 6"..

That may explain why he states: "The case back is difficult to read but it looks like the same as a 16660 in my Rolex reference book "ROLEX OYSTER" "ORIGINAL GAS ESCAPE VALVE"."

That's why pictures are a must with inquiries...otherwise, speculative..
 
omitohud
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It may as well be a 16660 without pics. Way way too high a price for that reference regardless how complete the set is.


I blame it on the autoconnect.
 
Ricbo2010
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calalum calalum
What are the appropriate date ranges for the 1665 and the 16660? Doesn't 1984 seem very late for a 1665? And shouldn't a 1665 have an acrylic crystal?
This is one of my main concerns, it appears to be too late? I am unable to upload pics on my IPad, sorry, I know that's not much help. I saw this one on Chrono 24, for sale in U.K.
 
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Ricbo2010 Ricbo2010
This is one of my main concerns, it appears to be too late? I am unable to upload pics on my IPad, sorry, I know that's not much help. I saw this one on Chrono 24, for sale in U.K.

Post the link..
 
brunik
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You mean production serial 84? 1665 stopped in 81


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Shouldn't the back have enamel in the letteringredients? That case looks damn near factory, so shouldn't the back look like that too?

Wish my 1665 was as sharp!
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brunik brunik
Yep

https://www.chrono24.com/es/rolex/s...pers--id4377251.htm?SETLANG=es_ES&SETCURR=EUR

Strangely there is on in 84 with papers

7.2M serial


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It is very possible that the watch was produced circa 1981 and sold in 1984. Depending where it was sold initially, it was not uncommon that watches sat on the shelf for a couple of years before they were sold. Add the fact that the Sea-Dweller was not a popular model as it was quite a bit more expensive than the popular Submariner.
 
Faz
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You should also know that the "666" style caseback was found on the later production watches from the mid 6 mil onto very early 8 mil 1665s. Yes, there are some very early 8 mil 1665s out there!
 
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Shouldn't the back have enamel in the letteringredients? That case looks damn near factory, so shouldn't the back look like that too?

Wish my 1665 was as sharp!
IMG_20160914_085545.jpg

Nothing wrong with your watch! That is a beauty..
 
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