Rolex GMT-Master - Hodinkee reference points

kelev_ra

Well there's quite some bullshit in this. Wonder who paid for it 😀 one way to legitimize things... 😀

Chris75

Totally agree, really embarrassing.

kelev_ra

Well there's quite some bullshit in this. Wonder who paid for it 😀 one way to legitimize things... 😀

georgetownhoya

Obsession isn’t a good look on you. Not sure what your problem with me is. I wrote you some weeks ago directly and am happy to speak on the phone at your convenience. Or you can continue to hide behind your computer and just make false accusations. I do think the OF moderators should look into restricting your account if you continue like this.

MTROIS

So, why don’t you share with the community the elements you feel are “embarrassing”?

Chris75

My only obsession, as I already told you, is only about truth.

I just agreed with @kelev_ra that that showing a Blueberry insert as "controversial" was a way to legitimize it, when everybody in the watch community knows perfectly that the Blueberry inserts are only aftermarket, since Rolex never ever produced them.

I was embarrassed about what @kelev_ra described "b...it": in a reference point video you shouldn't show a fake insert and define it controversial, as if it "may be wrong but also may be good".

As you shouldn't try to sell a GMT without real provenance as if it had belonged to some President, but that's another story...

Bill Sohne

HI @Chris75

If you have a issue with author of the article, this is not a clearing ground for that.

You stated your opinion and now please move on.

I am still on the mend... but when I see a thread turning like this... I wanted to post.

Regards.
Bill Sohne

jhross98

ahh.. you've shown your true colors

stating things as *settled definitive fact* when in fact there are legions of people with the opposite opinion and no doubt far more rolex street cred than you have is also

a bad look

i believe what is settled about blueberry inserts is that many of them are fake (and in fact given the proliferation of them in the last few years, i feel comfortable saying the majority of those seen today are)

but the most knowledgeable rolex people i know believe the first blueberrys were legitimately made by rolex and in service centers in the 70s

there are 4000 threads discussing this on rolex forums. i would describe none of them as "everyone knows perfectly" that they are all fake

to say this is in some way settled or "everyone knows" just shows that you don't belong here

and i don't own a blueberry or care what the answer is one way or the other, but you have shown incredibly poor form going after one of the most knowledgeable and honest people in the business for statement that is decidedly balanced and 100% accurate

the exact quote is below

It should be stated up front that this bezel insert is a controversial part, and the collecting community remains divided as to whether these all-blue inserts were ever even made by Rolex. Bezels aren't signed like dials, cases, movements, and bracelets, making them easier parts to fake, and many of the examples one is likely to find online are replica parts.