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Replica / fake 1960’s Speedmaster pulsations bezel

Rman
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Seen today on Instagram, has anyone come across one of these before?
It was only a matter of time.

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Below are a couple obvious tells for posterity.

Replica:

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Authentic bezel:
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Patrik83
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Same seller.

Now reported and hopefully soon removed.
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Well it does say “quality aftermarket” so that should be fine.
 
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All gone, please re-post here if they turn up again.
 
t_swiss_t
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I put that up on Instagram, didn’t realize no one had brought it up here. Thanks @Rman . He also has an Instagram that he sells through that my friend just showed me — @watchandparts .
 
t_swiss_t
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FYI, Bukowski's looks like they have a Speedmaster with one of these bezels on it. I just reached out to them. We'll see what happens.

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watchyouwant
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There is a visual gap between the insert and the outer bezel circumfence. And the bezel itself needs adapting to the case ; does not snap on straight away. Kind regards. Achim
 
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@Patrik83 , @watchyouwant -- good on Bukowski's, they already removed the watch from the sale (the link on my prior post now goes to a different watch). Me thinks that consigner is going to be in a bit of trouble.
 
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Same seller.

Now reported and hopefully soon removed.
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Question - why don't you go on ebay and report all the aftermarket seiko diver bezels, then the citizen bezels???

I have a Seamaster Calypso for which the bezels are literally NLA - and there is an aftermarket available. Why is this wrong and should be "Reported"?

The seller is not saying they are authentic, nor do they have any branding saying Omega on them.

Each to their own, just do your research when buying a real watch and know what to avoid.
 
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Question - why don't you go on ebay and report all the aftermarket seiko diver bezels, then the citizen bezels???

I have a Seamaster Calypso for which the bezels are literally NLA - and there is an aftermarket available. Why is this wrong and should be "Reported"?

The seller is not saying they are authentic, nor do they have any branding saying Omega on them.

Each to their own, just do your research when buying a real watch and know what to avoid.
Yeah I don’t get it why in need to be reported when the seller clearly stated that they are aftermarket bezels.
 
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alexei.joukovski alexei.joukovski
Question - why don't you go on ebay and report all the aftermarket seiko diver bezels, then the citizen bezels???

I have a Seamaster Calypso for which the bezels are literally NLA - and there is an aftermarket available. Why is this wrong and should be "Reported"?

The seller is not saying they are authentic, nor do they have any branding saying Omega on them.

Each to their own, just do your research when buying a real watch and know what to avoid.

The problem is these counterfeit parts get fitted to watches and they are later resold as all original, usually at a significant profit.

Counterfeit parts damage the resale market when unsuspecting buyers spend original watch money and unknowingly get fake parts on what amounts to a frankenwatch.

If I had time to report all the fake Seiko parts I'd do that too.

I will continue to report these fake parts and encourage members of this forum to post them when they see them.
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mancio
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The problem is these counterfeit parts get fitted to watches and they are later resold as all original, usually at a significant profit.

Counterfeit parts damage the resale market when unsuspecting buyers spend original watch money and unknowingly get fake parts on what amounts to a frankenwatch.

If I had time to report all the fake Seiko parts I'd do that too.
Well that doesn't make sense not even a bit.

How can be someone that sell aftermarket parts and specify that are aftermarket be responsible if some dealer put them on a watch without disclosing that.
That is on the dealer, an there are plenty of A.hole that do that and put aftermarket parts on a watch, not whom makes the part.

Example, if the speedy few post back had a fake bezel, it's seller responsability to say so and if not solve the problem and face consequence when is caught.

I personally prefer to know that there are these kind of parts around and knowing what to look for and what i know can be replicated instead of not knowing what is outthere and expecting that all dealers will tell you the truth about what you are buying.

One needs to know what to expect and do the homework and if one wants to drop $200 on a fake bezel beacuse one like how the pulsation looks like instead of dropping $900 or more on an original or because one want to preserve a very expensive original bezel and wearing the watch with more piece of mind he/she should be able to do that too.
 
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mancio mancio
How can be someone that sell aftermarket parts and specify that are aftermarket be responsible if some dealer put them on a watch without disclosing that.
That is on the dealer, an there are plenty of A.hole that do that and put aftermarket parts on a watch, not whom makes the part.

I don’t entirely disagree - I would feel more okay with these bezels if 1) the maker gave an obvious tell and 2) he hadn’t started by listing these as real bezels until he got caught / exposed on this forum. There’s a guy who makes GMT inserts and colors the backs different colors so you can easily tell the difference; that I am totally okay with.

This is the Speedmaster version of ‘we shouldn’t regulate gun manufacturers because they don’t kill people, people kill people.’ So it could go on forever but I’ll bow out after this post, I just wanted to let people know about the Bukowski’s example and agree that the consigner is in the most wrong here.

On a lighter note, if you can find a pulsations bezel for $900, please sell it to me!
 
mancio
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On a lighter note, if you can find a pulsations bezel for $900, please sell it to me!

There was a pulsation bezel ( that was described as a service part with the correct part number for service part) on Ebay 6/7 months back for about $900 if i recall correctly 😀
 
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The parts that I have seen that are listed as 'aftermarket' are usually very obviously incorrect. Its the ones that have malicious intent that are better.
 
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mancio mancio
There was a pulsation bezel ( that was described as a service part with the correct part number for service part) on Ebay 6/7 months back for about $900 if i recall correctly 😀

service part; yes. not the one we talk about here. i`d pay up to $ 3000 for an original...... kind regards. achim
 
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Reporting it seems silly. Let Omega go after them. It is their proprietary designs. Aftermarket stuff exists in various hobbies. Report the people who claim an authentic watch and use aftermarket parts as that is where your detective work is helpful.
 
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@Patrik83 , @watchyouwant -- good on Bukowski's, they already removed the watch from the sale (the link on my prior post now goes to a different watch). Me thinks that consigner is going to be in a bit of trouble.
The whatch is still there. However, they have removed the front images. I would guess they are currently investigating/changing the bezel.
 
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