Replacing explorer 1 bracelet or strap

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I've never heard of this claim.

Is this a official documented Rolex position, or the advice of (yet another) uninformed retailer?
Given how much the Rolex NYC store likes my e1 and Daytona on leather and the fact they never said anything about them being at risk of malfunction or warranty loss I'd say that's a comment made by the doorman of the store adjacent to a Rolex boutique on a Sunday afternoon after lunch.
 
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You do what you will. This information was garnered from a Rolex boutique regarding the use of leather straps and loose bracelets on Rolex Bracelet watches. I can understand what they are saying. Considering that the bracelet should be adjusted snuggly so that all wrist movement transfers directly to the rotor inside the watch is not rocket science, it makes perfect common sense to my way of thinking.
 
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A leather strap would keep the watch closer to your arm than a bracelet would any day of the week.

Loose bracelet I get, but leather strap that's tin hat stuff there my friend......
 
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I am not offering this as a comment, It is a statement of fact from Rolex, check with them if you don't believe me. I personally don't care, I always wear my Rolex on it's bracelet securely adjusted, but I also wear it as an accurate time piece not for bragging rights. I raised the issue in good faith and I'm out of this now, so as I said above, you do what you like
 
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Ok, how would one explain then the fact that you can buy certain watches both on leather and steel bracelet formats? Would one have to assume that the watch itself is modified to only work correctly with the bracelet or strap it's sold with?

Even a loosely worn watch gets enough vibrations or movements to fully charge it. I'm away on vacation but I can tell you the Rolex boutique on Madisson has never ever mentioned anything like this and they have seen me and discussed with me my choice and change of straps, it's actually an ongoing issue as I keep changing straps all the time.
 
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Official Rolex Boutique. In fact, against recommendation, a couple of people put leather straps onto their watches then complained about the accuracy of them. They reverted back to standard bracelets and the accuracy issue was corrected.

From a personal standpoint and from personal experience. I have worn Explorer 1 for years on a standard bracelet and both climbing and skiing in the Alps and potholing and caving in Yorkshire the Explorer 1 was wonderful and could be forgotten about leaving me to focus on my activity.
 
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Right, but if at the store I can buy a Daytona or explorer on leather or steel bracelet... Which one should I get? Aren't them the same watch sold on different configurations by Rolex or do you believe they're in fact different watches internally?

I'm talking about buying them new, from Rolex, unmodified, at the store, with warranty.

Or why is it that I can actually buy a strap at the store and ask them to set it for me? Would they not decline such service as it would be voiding their warranty ?
 
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You do what you will. This information was garnered from a Rolex boutique regarding the use of leather straps and loose bracelets on Rolex Bracelet watches. I can understand what they are saying. Considering that the bracelet should be adjusted snuggly so that all wrist movement transfers directly to the rotor inside the watch is not rocket science, it makes perfect common sense to my way of thinking.

I wear my Rolex and Tudor watches on straps most of the time, and have no problems with accuracy or anything else really.

Certainly wearing the watch loose on your wrist can cause problems with the efficiency of the automatic winding, but making this a strap/bracelet issue is just nonsense...there is no difference with a properly fitting strap or a properly fitting bracelet. Both will work fine and there are thousands of examples of this out there...as Sergio has pointed out, some Rolex models are available on straps...

If you want to believe what these people are telling you, then fine, but it makes no sense...common or otherwise.

Cheers, Al
 
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I've never heard of this claim.

Is this a official documented Rolex position, or the advice of (yet another) uninformed retailer?
Official Rolex Boutique. In fact, against recommendation, a couple of people put leather straps onto their watches then complained about the accuracy of them. They reverted back to standard bracelets and the accuracy issue was corrected.

From a personal standpoint and from personal experience. I have worn Explorer 1 for years on a standard bracelet and both climbing and skiing in the Alps and potholing and caving in Yorkshire the Explorer 1 was wonderful and could be forgotten about leaving me to focus on my activity.

Missed my guess then.

It wasn't (yet another) uninformed retailer, it was (yet another) uniformed Official Rolex Boutique. 🙄
 
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Hmmm..... even if the rotor misses some of the wrist movement, I am sure it is not going to miss so much of it that the watch stops and affect the accuracy?

If the issue is about having the watch sitting snugly on the wrist, isn't that the whole point of having more than one hole for straps?

Nothing against you kennethcooke, just questioning the company's logic.
 
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Hmmm..... even if the rotor misses some of the wrist movement, I am sure it is not going to miss so much of it that the watch stops and affect the accuracy?

If the issue is about having the watch sitting snugly on the wrist, isn't that the whole point of having more than one hole for straps?

Nothing against you kennethcooke, just questioning the company's logic.
It is not the company's logic. It's the logic of whomever said it. Rolex "allows" their watches to be sold and worn on bracelets and straps and will even sell you a set. Heck, they even designed their bracelets and straps so they could be swapped, something I don't think would happen if they, as a company, thought using anything other than the original offering would compromise the watch and void warranty.
 
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Rolex advise customers NOT to fit leather straps to their bracelet watches. Doing so can effect the Chronometer accuracy and will null and void your guarantee. The watch id manufactured to be worn with it's bracelet

Official Rolex Boutique. In fact, against recommendation, a couple of people put leather straps onto their watches then complained about the accuracy of them. They reverted back to standard bracelets and the accuracy issue was corrected.

Silliest thing I've ever heard!
 
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I am not offering this as a comment, It is a statement of fact from Rolex, check with them if you don't believe me. I personally don't care, I always wear my Rolex on it's bracelet securely adjusted, but I also wear it as an accurate time piece not for bragging rights. I raised the issue in good faith and I'm out of this now, so as I said above, you do what you like
It isn't a statement of fact from Rolex at all, what you need to understand is that there's no actual training required to be a watch salesman, you get a crash course on what the watches are and how to sell them and then off you go. Salespeople frequently float from a Rolex boutique to a Cartier jewellery boutique to a Montblanc fountain pen and accessory boutique, they know nothing yet have to pretend to have a clue in front of customers.

There isn't a single Rolex movement that ISN'T sold on strap, the 3135 is sold on straps in the Datejust, Daydate, Yachtmaster etc, the 4130 is on straps in the Daytona, the 9001 is on strap in the Sky-Dweller, the entire Cellini line is on strap...

All of those watches are tested for chronometer status by COSC as movements only uncased, just as loose movements. So when they are rated as chronometers, neither COSC nor Rolex has any idea whether that movement is even going to eventually go into a strap model or a bracelet model.

That guy was just an absolute goose trying to make up some intelligent sounding nonsense to convince you he had a clue what he was talking about.
 
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@kennethcooke - here you will find many pictures of watches that may have come on bracelets, but they are actually on leather straps - including even Roli !

http://www.abp-paris.com/watchbands_creations_watchstraps.php

Such as ...


Oh wait... You know about this ....

https://omegaforums.net/threads/thi...duce-some-beautiful-aftermarket-straps.24110/

Have you only recently uncovered this 'accuracy' 'problem'?

As ever, I remain mystified by your posts...
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Changed from a strap salesman to a bracelet salesman.
 
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Changed from a strap salesman to a bracelet salesman.

Double glazing next ? 😉
 
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They do rub, that's true. Same with the Daytona. I think you need curved pins and straps for them not to. Yiu cab find those too though.

I know this is an old thread, but I've hunted high and low for a curved end strap (preferably a sort of "vintage" style leather one similar to this one) that will fit the 36mm Explorer, to no avail. The rub marks don't bother me that much, but I'd swap this one for a curved one if I could. Anyone know?

 
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You do what you will. This information was garnered from a Rolex boutique regarding the use of leather straps and loose bracelets on Rolex Bracelet watches. I can understand what they are saying. Considering that the bracelet should be adjusted snuggly so that all wrist movement transfers directly to the rotor inside the watch is not rocket science, it makes perfect common sense to my way of thinking.
Common sense is not so common after all 😉
 
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Common sense is not so common after all 😉

It’s not just that. He was so angry when it was pointed out that Rolex themselves put these watches on straps he’s never been back since. That is dedication to not admitting you’re wrong