Repairing Vintage Omega Seamaster lost paint bezel

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Hi all,

I got a vintage Omega Seamaster but the rotating bezel paint has been totally lost which is a common symptom in vintage Seasmaster.

Any idea who except Aldo can help and repair it perfectly or what kind of paint should it be cos I do hope to restore this black paint by myself instead.

Let me know who has the experiences about restoring the bezel.

Regards,

HL
It should be possible to clean out all the old numbers and glue in a new matching insert. What is the case number of the watch?
Robert
 
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It should be possible to clean out all the old numbers and glue in a new matching insert. What is the case number of the watch?
Robert


Hi Robert,

it is Seamaster 300 ref 2913.
there is no more black paint left in the bezel.
how to restore?
many thanks.

Hans
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There is only one way to restore the bezel and that is to send it and a load of money to Aldo and then wait a year for him to grow you a new one.
Greetings, I've been looking for the red & black bezel for my SM200 166.068 for a very long time. I had an old bezel with half the numbers missing and got a Seiko R&B insert and with a very slight fine sanding around it glued it in. I's not the right bezel for 166.068 but it was good practice for when I find any bezel that will fit my case. All is missing/lost on mine and I only think it might have a single ball for the click it has one hole at the six. no one ever shows a photo of the underside Regards, RobertView attachment 202771 View attachment 202772
 
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What information do you need?
If the bezel doesn't turn, it's either fully grown with dirt and need to be cleaned underneath it... or the seller have "glued" it on.
Here's one of mine without the bezel mounted. It's hold on by a friction spring inside the bezel and turn's/clicks over the springloaded ruby balls on the case.
Either way, this seller is telling you 🤬

Need pictures posted here of your watch, before further help.


Hello ,

A follow up....

After checking, I found out that the bezel can be rotated but the watch has been stored for very long time and dirt has accumulated underneath the bezel so making the bezel really hard to turn.

I have taken out the movement, unscrew the plexi retaining ring and immersed the whole case in WD40 for one week.

At first it does not move at all but when I use a big clamp to move the bezel a bit, it turns! so I have turned the bezel for a few round so that more WD 40 can soft the dirt.

Finally I take watch marker knife to take apart the bezel and lots of dirt found underneath and eventually I have managed to clean out those dirt.

Putting back a NOS replacement plexi, together replacing the crown to corrected one. It becomes a jewel!

Now back to the lost paint, I really want to try restoring the bezel by myself since it seems not really complicated.

I heard that there is a need to put on a base paint before go for black and I do need to know the font size as well.

Can Kox kindly send a up right front picture of the bezel so that I can have the correct dimension and what kind of paint should I buy to complete the task? Should it be semi gloss or matt color? Any recommendation?

Many thanks!

Hans
 
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Can Kox kindly send a up right front picture of the bezel so that I can have the correct dimension and what kind of paint should I buy to complete the task? Should it be semi gloss or matt color? Any recommendation?
I really think it is NOT paint.
 
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Hello ,

A follow up....

After checking, I found out that the bezel can be rotated but the watch has been stored for very long time and dirt has accumulated underneath the bezel so making the bezel really hard to turn.

I have taken out the movement, unscrew the plexi retaining ring and immersed the whole case in WD40 for one week.

At first it does not move at all but when I use a big clamp to move the bezel a bit, it turns! so I have turned the bezel for a few round so that more WD 40 can soft the dirt.

Finally I take watch marker knife to take apart the bezel and lots of dirt found underneath and eventually I have managed to clean out those dirt.

Putting back a NOS replacement plexi, together replacing the crown to corrected one. It becomes a jewel!

Now back to the lost paint, I really want to try restoring the bezel by myself since it seems not really complicated.

I heard that there is a need to put on a base paint before go for black and I do need to know the font size as well.

Can Kox kindly send a up right front picture of the bezel so that I can have the correct dimension and what kind of paint should I buy to complete the task? Should it be semi gloss or matt color? Any recommendation?

Many thanks!

Hans


Hi Hans
There is no paint on an Omega watch, I think the number part could be acrylic and maybe something else. I repaired a bezel at home with a bezel insert there a many many for sale on Ebay and other places. You need the right one.
If you have an old Seamaster 300 I think the case number is 165.024 . I started by digging out the numbers and super cleaned the groove.
You can't hurt the stainless steel much but it must be super clean. You must ask around for the right kind of glue and clean the groove with maybe rubbing alcohol? You have to glue on the insert with the bezel on the watch so it lines up with a click stop say at 12.
( there is no paint or font size everything is on the new bezel insert just make sure you get the correct one)
The photo is the bezel I did at home I have experience with small tools.

Robert
 
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using WD40 on a watch should be against the law.

Come to think of it, using WD40 on anything except for storing heavy machinery should be against the law.

However, since we're also using a big clamp and a knife I think we're okay here.....

Wanna borrow my 10,000 rpm 5" grinder?
 
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using WD40 on a watch should be against the law.

Come to think of it, using WD40 on anything except for storing heavy machinery should be against the law.

However, since we're also using a big clamp and a knife I think we're okay here.....

Wanna borrow my 10,000 rpm 5" grinder?

I disagree, WD40 is a reasonable choice for the purpose the OP wanted to achieve. He had removed the movement so he wasn't doing an eBay "Watch has been serviced" approach.

😉

The only thing I find curious is that Hans is capable of using the internet, but not capable of posting a photo of the watch.
 
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I disagree, WD40 is a reasonable choice for the purpose the OP wanted to achieve. He had removed the movement so he wasn't doing an eBay "Watch has been serviced" approach.

😉

The only thing I find curious is that Hans is capable of using the internet, but not capable of posting a photo of the watch.

the internet, a big clamp and a knife......
 
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This is the one that lost the numbers in the bezel...

Many thanks!
 
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Such a nice watch. Allow it to be treated by a professional for the benefit of yourself and this timepiece.

A case knife and WD40 can do wonders..or terrors. I am ambitious when it comes to my own watchmaking, but the bezel on a SM300 I would not monkey with.
 
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I would worry more about the dial, which is repainted/redialed. Just look at the omega sign or the "S" in Seamaster etc.
A lot of value and charme in the 1.gen SM300 depends on the bezel inlay, yes ...BUT not compared to the dial and its originality/condition. IMO it's most of the value. These dials are much harder to source than the bezel, yes also with original inlay! And that says a lot.
In that context, give your DIY inlay a go, it will match the dial for sure 😟 Sorry, but we are mostly a bunch of originality nerds on this forum.
Here's a link for you:
A japanese DIY guide...where black tape is used....won't do your bezel much harm ;-)

Everything better than that, would commend the hands of a professional.
 
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I would worry more about the dial, which is repainted/redialed. Just look at the omega sign or the "S" in Seamaster etc.
A lot of value and charme in the 1.gen SM300 depends on the bezel inlay, yes ...BUT not compared to the dial and its originality/condition. IMO it's most of the value. These dials are much harder to source than the bezel, yes also with original inlay! And that says a lot.
In that context, give your DIY inlay a go, it will match the dial for sure 😟 Sorry, but we are mostly a bunch of originality nerds on this forum.
Here's a link for you:
A japanese DIY guide...where black tape is used....won't do your bezel much harm ;-)

Everything better than that, would commend the hands of a professional.
Sprayed with lacquer and sanded to 2k? That's impressive. Anyone know what the "compound" is in picture 16?
 
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Sprayed with lacquer and sanded to 2k? That's impressive. Anyone know what the "compound" is in picture 16?

I followed this link and did it myself. Turned out ok. Better than the sticker that I had made and lasts longer. First cleaned the bezel then sprayed many layers of satin black enamel and wet sanded with 2000 grit (waited overnight between coats). Made a template similar to the web site and secured the bezel to the paper (tape). Used Model Graphics Woodland Scenics dry transfer decals. Carefully cut and applied to the bezel in the proper places. This is very tricky and may take several attempts as they are very small. Get yourself a good pair of watchmaker grade tweezers and an excellent pair of small scissors. Finished it off with several coats of satin clear enamel and a light wet sand to level everything out.

If you are trying to fool anyone that it is original, give it up. You will never find the correct fonts. Aldo is the best and takes the longest. I did it purely for my own enjoyment as my SM300 is far from perfect. Great daily watch, though.

My dial looked like yours but was done in gloss black 🤮. Previous owner was a watchmaker with NO taste. He polished the chrome off the hands down to the brass and though it looked great 😲. I sent the dial off for a re-do with added patina. Matte black, of course. Hands were re-chromed at the same place.

All said one might ask why buy such a POS, well it runs perfect (watchmaker did an excellent job), I like projects and the price was below what the movement was worth...........and picked it up at a watch show!