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Reinhold Messner: "lost" record (to a ROLEX-fanboy)

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Messner lost his record to be the 1st to climb all 14 8000-meter summits as he did NOT really reach the summit of Annapurna. He returned 65 m below. (Guiness-book will change rules in 2024)
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(Does anyone know which watch(es) he wore?)

Now the record belongs to Ed Viesturs:
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picture from ROLEX Magazine #8
 
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Theses are wonderful pictures. At the risk of severely dating myself, both of these photos remind me of the Malboro Man spreads that used to run in my youth. Great photos back then, product not so much.
 
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Do you have a good link to share? I tried a quick search and nothing popped up. I have questions.
 
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Mountain chronicler Eberhard Jurgalski and his team have researched the ascents of the highest mountains, reports the Austrian "Kronen Zeitung". It turned out that many alpinists did not climb the peaks "properly". They turned back prematurely because they thought they had reached their destination. However, they had not yet reached the "true summit".

The Italian extreme mountaineers Reinhold Messner and Hans Kammerlander are also among them: In 1985, they turned back only 65 meters from the "true summit" of the 8091-meter-high Annapurna.
 
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If you Google messner+guinness you get zero results that pertain to this particular story, which makes me a bit suspicious of the Bild story. It seems just one individual is pushing this narrative:

"According to “Krone”, his [Messner's] entry in the Guinness Book will be revoked."


Added edit:

The world of high-altitude mountaineering is high-profile and ultra-competitive. A story like this, if true, would have a seismic effect in that world. Which is why I'm surprised no one else is saying anything about it.
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Jones in LA Jones in LA
The world of high-altitude mountaineering is high-profile and ultra-competitive. A story like this, if true, would have a seismic effect in that world.

ask marketing-office of ROLEX , who was not on the moon 😁
 
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Fallout Boy Fallout Boy
ask marketing-office of ROLEX , who was not on the moon 😁

During the Apollo missions, the Rolex GMT-Master was worn by astronauts such as Alan Shepherd, Dr. Edgar Mitchell, and Eugene Cernan. 😁
 
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What is wrong?

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“The great strength of a Rolex is strength.”

It’s hard to believe that some marketing executive approved that...absolute drivel...::facepalm1::

“The greatest thing about blue is blueness.”
 
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It is not exactly a new story in climber circles.
There is the discussion on how to value historic achievements compared to modern day with GPS.
Today you would not get away with not being on the true summit but 40 years ago that was not so easy to determine.
Tricky summits to determine or reach from the fore summits are Shishapangma, Annapurna and Manaslu.
 
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Reinhold Messner is stripped of his world record. He is said not to have reached the summit of a mountain. This emerges from a report in the Austrian "Kleine Zeitung". The Guinness Book of World Records has now corrected the corresponding entry.
 
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Fallout Boy Fallout Boy
Reinhold Messner is stripped of his world record. He is said not to have reached the summit of a mountain. This emerges from a report in the Austrian "Kleine Zeitung". The Guinness Book of World Records has now corrected the corresponding entry.

Can you provide evidence that Guinness has made a change regarding Messner's record, without making reference to second- or third-hand information? In other words, from Guinness itself?

Added edit:

I have answered my own question, Viesturs was indeed credited by Guinness with the first ascent of all the TRUE 8,000m summits.

From the official Guinness record website:

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https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/746531-first-true-summit-ascent-of-the-8-000ers



Score one for the Polar Explorer!

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