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Here's some background info. It appears that the watch may have been designed in the Vietnam era, but was not produced until 1982. That said, it was only produced for a couple of months, so it may indeed be quite rare.
Thanks! That's interesting. I would've snagged it up for its aesthetics, were it not for the bent lugs.
 
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Here's some background info. It appears that the watch may have been designed in the Vietnam era, but was not produced until 1982. That said, it was only produced for a couple of months, so it may indeed be quite rare.
Thank you for that!
I always get a little chuffed when I see sellers (or collectors, or both) beating the “military” drum just because it has a black dial and lume. If it was not issued by a government for service members, it IS NOT military!
“Mil-spec” is another bugaboo. Timex was never a contractor for the US military, Benrus and Hamilton were during the Vietnam era (and it was not a war, it was a conflict, or police action- war has only been declared twice in the US on a foreign government - and it requires an act of Congress- literally).

Companies like Marathon can claim “Mil-spec” for their civilian watches as they were designed for military use and their watches have actually been used by the military inboth the US and Canada



Even the historically in accurate Benrus D-day watch is more of a “military” watch than a timex ever would be- a reissue made by an official government contractor….they just cited the wrong watch for the wrong war- oops.

There were also civilian watches that were adopted as military pieces in the early days of wrist watches due to their designs meeting the needs of military personnel- but never officially “issued”
Although this Mido is the civilian model of the Royal Marine version which was identical but marked “R M” on the dial above the sub-second.

“Trench” watches are another issue- only a handful were actually “issued” to officers, most were purchased by servicemen- and many were marketed for the purpose of military field duty- but many consider any wire lug watch a “trench watch” which is a misnomer. Unless you can show Provence of the watch being used by a serviceman (some were thankfully engraved which gives us some sense of their history), then it just a wire lugged watch.

Elgin, Waltham and Bulova were military contractors in the previous military eras.

Anything purchased at a PX like Helbros divers, Zodiac Seawolfs, Rolex GMT’s (mostly by pilots who were in a higher pay scale and they were fashionable among the flyboys) or Timex’s- if even available at a PX) were NOT military issue, just worn by GI’s during conflict and purchased on base.



Sorry for the long winded rant. Those of us who spend the time and effort to collect military pieces take offense at anything being considered “military” as a marketing ploy.

 
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I particularly like the Zodiac Black dial. That watch was worn by legendary documentary photographer Sir Don Mcullin whilst covering the Vietnam War.
 
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I particularly like the Zodiac Black dial. That watch was worn by legendary documentary photographer Sir Don Mcullin whilst covering the Vietnam War.
I think @Scarecrow Boat has a pic handy of Larry Burroughs wearing his DJ in the field…I think it was a DJ.
 
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I particularly like the Zodiac Black dial. That watch was worn by legendary documentary photographer Sir Don Mcullin whilst covering the Vietnam War.
I think @Scarecrow Boat has a pic handy of Larry Burroughs wearing his DJ in the field…I think it was a DJ.
Larry Burrows was also a legendary photographer covering the Vietnam War. His field watch of choice was a solid yellow gold Rolex President Day-Date. He along with a number of troops were in a helicopter that was fatally shot down. Many years later, his colleagues searched for the crash site and recovered parts of his cameras and watch.

Here are a few photos of him wearing it


You can just make out the Day window at 12


And out of interest, here is one of his recovered cameras.
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I had heard the story of Larry and the gold DJ. Something very cool about wearing a watch like that in such an environment.
 
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I had heard the story of Larry and the gold DJ. Something very cool about wearing a watch like that in such an environment.

Red Adair, the famous oil well fire fighter used to wear a solid gold Day-Date on his job as well. Jackie Stewart wore his Day-Date while working in the pit of F1 races and then hand it to his manager just before starting the race.

This was in the 60s and 70s when Rolex was still viewed as a tough tool watch that could be worn anywhere and anytime. And before they cost a small fortune to own.
 
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Red Adair, the famous oil well fire fighter used to wear a solid gold Day-Date on his job as well. Jackie Stewart wore his Day-Date while working in the pit of F1 races and then hand it to his manager just before starting the race.

This was in the 60s and 70s when Rolex was still viewed as a tough tool watch that could be worn anywhere and anytime. And before they cost a small fortune to own.
One of the primary reasons I bought my Rolex GMT (picture above) 20 years ago was that my boss Jack (who started my career and become like a father to me) had one. He purchased his new in 1961 at a Navy PX while on reserve duty for $150 (about 1 months salary for him at the time after taxes). He wore it daily for 40 years, had it serviced 4 times by Rolex, and beat the living shit out of it (National Park Service field duty can be rather physical). My GMT was subjected to the same rigors for the 13 years I was with the NPS- it never missed a beat despite taking out the crystal and destroying the bracelet on two separate occasions. Although watches like the DD, DJ or GMT were not “issued”, they kept up to the rigors of extreme duty well were are affordable by working people- not rich people.

Picture of Jack in 1961 wearing his GMT (although barely visible under the sleeve of his Pendleton, he confirmed it was his GMT in this picture).


And this is the camera that took that picture which belonged to his boss.
 
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Okay, if we are going tangental, what lens is on the Nikon F in the B&W of Larry Burrows?
 
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Okay, if we are going tangental, what lens is on the Nikon F in the B&W of Larry Burrows?
Lol- this thread (and forum) is all about tangential.

In that picture, he was setting up for The Yankee Papa 13 shoot which is the one that IMO (and my senior thesis on photojournalism and it’s affects on public opinion) changes the tide of the war in terms of public support.

This is the lens


This is the shot

 
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Lol- this thread (and forum) is all about tangential.

In that picture, he was setting up for The Yankee Papa 13 shoot which is the one that IMO (and my senior thesis on photojournalism and it’s affects on public opinion) changes the tide of the war in terms of public support.

This is the lens


This is the shot

My favorite photo from that shoot. I was slowly scrolling while reading, thinking: if James doesn’t include that image I’m going to as I have that one on hand as well.
 
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My favorite photo from that shoot. I was slowly scrolling while reading, thinking: if James doesn’t include that image I’m going to as I have that one on hand as well.
Mine too, although the entire photo series from that shoot was just so fυcking compelling as a narrative.
We forget that 21mm was insanely wide in the early 60’s. I have a 10mm Voigtlander and 15mm Zeiss in my M10 bag right now, but back then, the widest commercially available rectilinear 35mm lenses were the Schneider 21mm Super Angulon for the Leica SL series or the Nikon 21. Both of which were ridiculously expensive.
That Nikon 21 probably cost Life magazine about what Larry paid for his Rolex. But it’s all about getting the shot. If that camera had been knocked off the helicopter after that roll had been retrieved from the camera- worth it.

There was a National Geo photographer (name is escaping me but he was legendary) who couldn’t find a pilot to take him to a very remote destination. So he bought a prop plane on his corporate Amex and flew it himself. Several months later, accounting called him and asked about the purchase for a plane…and where was it. That era of photographer is sadly behind us.
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Nice looking Ernest Borel Sea Sub here in apparently very nice condition, crown looks signed. 60's? No movement shot but I assume either AS Schild or ETA inside.
If shipping wasn't so much these days I would probably be unable to resist at that price.
Link?
 
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If shipping wasn't so much these days I would probably be unable to resist at that price.
Ebay's Global Shipping Program should be criminalized. The obscenely high shipping costs are one thing, but they also pay the buyer's import tariffs as a 'service'. In doing so, they like to take up to 100% of the import tariffs one is owed as 'service costs', leading to giant expenses for the buyer for a 'service' they don't need or even have chosen for. EU based consumers are categorically getting f-ed by Ebay, fueled by USA based sellers who use it as their exclusive means of shipping, most of the times.
 
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Ebay's Global Shipping Program should be criminalized. The obscenely high shipping costs are one thing, but they also pay the buyer's import tariffs as a 'service'. In doing so, they like to take up to 100% of the import tariffs one is owed as 'service costs', leading to giant expenses for the buyer for a 'service' they don't need or even have chosen for. EU based consumers are categorically getting f-ed by Ebay, fueled by USA based sellers who use it as their exclusive means of shipping, most of the times.

Yes, I think I read US sellers in particular are even being railroaded by Ebay into using it. Totally unnecessary. Amazon in the US do something similar "helping" you to pay import costs - even on things which are categorically exempt!
 
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One of the primary reasons I bought my Rolex GMT (picture above) 20 years ago was that my boss Jack (who started my career and become like a father to me) had one. He purchased his new in 1961 at a Navy PX while on reserve duty for $150 (about 1 months salary for him at the time after taxes). He wore it daily for 40 years, had it serviced 4 times by Rolex, and beat the living shit out of it (National Park Service field duty can be rather physical). My GMT was subjected to the same rigors for the 13 years I was with the NPS- it never missed a beat despite taking out the crystal and destroying the bracelet on two separate occasions. Although watches like the DD, DJ or GMT were not “issued”, they kept up to the rigors of extreme duty well were are affordable by working people- not rich people.

Picture of Jack in 1961 wearing his GMT (although barely visible under the sleeve of his Pendleton, he confirmed it was his GMT in this picture).


And this is the camera that took that picture which belonged to his boss.

All superb quality gear. Right down to the Pendleton overshirt ( I own a couple). That's part of the romance of Rolex for me, the fact that so many people of action have worn them. Despite them being ludicrously over priced now I still want one but even the entry level models are beyond me now.
 
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From the same seller that started the whole military thing with the Timex, but this time he is actually listing a real issued watch.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hamilton-K...=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0


1982 Hamilton W-46374B. These are the watches that were issued to US ground forces from the Vietnam era through the mid 80’s along with the Benrus (although Benrus was out sometime in the 70’s and Hamilton stayed with it through the 80’s).

The hacking pilots version was the GG-W-113 and is nearly identical and although it had a higher jewel count and hacks-
and is in theory a “better” watch, the 113 lacked the H3 RAD symbol on the dial which makes these rather cool on their own.
I did own two of these, but in a moment of weakness and friendship (and a trade deal), I gave one to Aaron (I gave him the better of the two but mine came with a compass- sooooo, yeah…of course I kept the one that came with a friggin’ compass!)



The reason I am posting this watch is not becuase this particular watch is “special”, nor is the price exceptional (rather high actually), but the condition is exceptional.
This one probably falls into the top 5% for condition on these, they normally look worse than my compassed one.
The prices on these have been creeping up and crappy examples are fetching $300+, so if condition is your thing and you want a classic and REAL military field watch, this would be a safe bet. I could see one like this hitting $1k within the decade.
 
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Just wondering, surely the radiation sign is because of the tritium used, opposed to radium?