Receiving multiple international wires and declaring lower values

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I am in the process of selling a bracelet to a gentleman who checks out reference wise and has a reputation within the community that resides in Switzerland, I am in the US.

He has asked if I can declare and insure the item at a lower amount for customs purposes, and has acknowledged and accepted the assumed risk on his end.

He then would like to send two separate wires, one for the lower declared amount, so that matches up, and one for the remainder. Being that it will be a wire transfer and I will wait until funds fully clear before shipping, should I be concerned?

I can understand the customs work around for a bracelet, and respect that he is assuming responsibility to the liability, but do I have anything to be worried about on my end? I just want to be sure I'm not missing something, or if there are any additional safeguards I should try and put in place before I proceed.

Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
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The very fact that you are posting this indicates that you know the answer. Here are some other ways to consider your path...

Mirror Test. Imagine making the decision and then look at yourself in the mirror. How do you feel? What do you see in your eyes? Does it trigger alarm bells, violate your principles, or summon a guilty conscience?
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I've never heard of the authorities examining bank transactions to verify shipment values - certainly not for individuals - but then maybe it's different in Europe?
 
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The very fact that you are posting this indicates that you know the answer. Here are some other ways to consider your path...

One of the most useful posts ever on OF. I just cut and paste it into my 'Words of Wisdom' file.

The most important of all of these is the self psychological burden...the view from others is far secondary.

Living with yourself and the pattern of your own character is what will make or break your future. Everyone's limits are different, but you know quickly when you cross it.

"Unless a man is master of his soul, all other kinds of mastery amount to little." - Theodore Roosevelt
 
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I've never heard of the authorities examining bank transactions to verify shipment values - certainly not for individuals - but then maybe it's different in Europe?
I think it's more proof that he paid the (lower) amount showing on the waybill. Some customs agencies require this.

As to whether its a good idea or not, well, it's illegal -- but then, so is speeding, most recreational drugs, Jay walking (in some jurisdictions) -- and you wouldn't believe what's still legal / illegal on the books in some US states!

The rest is up to you.
 
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In the USA that is considered Federal wire fraud and bank fraud. But don't worry they will probably just send you to one of those nicer non-violent offender camps in a pleasant climate.

 
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coming back to the original question and putting the moral aspect aside:
As far as I know the buyer is responsible for the import duties. That means declaring a lower value for shipping is not illegal, declaring a lower value when importing is.
 
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When I ship, I fill out the forms, including the declared value, and sign with my signature that everything is accurate and correct.

Logistically, I'm not sure how you'd get around this within the letter of the law..
 
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We all make decision to short cut.
But I would want it to be my decision and not made an accomplice.
That is why I always state that I will declare the full value. I do not like to lie, even so I can emphasize with the cause.
 
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Thank you all! Skirting the import duties really didn't bother me morally - it's not like vintage components are always abundant, and sometimes you need to go outside of your borders to secure them. And, had the transaction taken place domestically, nobody would think of needing to pay any taxes or fees.

That aside, I think you all make very valid points, and are very correct. And for a little while you all made me feel like I had questionable morals too 😉

Thanks everyone for the input, the risks associated are just not worth it, and I will proceed down the "correct" path.
 
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The very fact that you are posting this indicates that you know the answer. Here are some other ways to consider your path...

An interesting set of considerations, but they all describe consequence. Notwithstanding the moral and ethical questions the OP faces, the theoretical definition of risk also has a likelihood component, which the list of tests completely ignores. In this case, the likelihood of the risk coming to fruition (that is, getting caught circumventing customs rules) is very small, so the overall risk would be moderate at best.
 
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If I am not mistaken (which I may be), the buyer slash importer is responsible for the customs declaration. It is counterintuitive because the seller / shipper completes the form.
 
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If I am not mistaken (which I may be), the buyer slash importer is responsible for the customs declaration. It is counterintuitive because the seller / shipper completes the form.

It's up to a importer / exporter to know all state and federal laws prior to import/export. Look at any countries custom page

Don't forget all, once a government form is filled out by the federal Government at a border it outlast you.

( for above scenario, if just say it was picked up that there was deception on the watch decleration and a form was filled out with buyer and sellers name and addresses. 10 years down the track you want to import export to the said country and need to apply for a permit to do so. Don't you think being in the system for false declarations on goods would help or hinder such application. )
 
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An interesting set of considerations, but they all describe consequence. Notwithstanding the moral and ethical questions the OP faces, the theoretical definition of risk also has a likelihood component, which the list of tests completely ignores. In this case, the likelihood of the risk coming to fruition (that is, getting caught circumventing customs rules) is very small, so the overall risk would be moderate at best.

So law is risk based now. 😒 Would like to hear your rating for some other laws as deceit and deception is higher in my book.
 
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We are not just talking about customs declarations here. Moving money in a manner to deceive the Gov't is called money laundering. You don't want to go there.
 
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I just sat jury on a federal money laundering case.. you don't want to go there for sure.
 
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Why are you even entertaining this? Don't be silly. Either find another buyer or tell him that you won't conspire to commit fraud.

There is also the real possibility it is a scam.
 
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We are not just talking about customs declarations here. Moving money in a manner to deceive the Gov't is called money laundering.....

I thought money laundering was when criminals 'washed' their illegally obtained dirty cash through a legitimate company, paid tax on it and ended up with clean, laundered money? That's the opposite of what is being discussed here. What is being discussed is tax evasion.

However, how many of us have bought goods abroad and not declared (and paid) the correct import tax when bringing them back into the country? I have! Financially, that's no different to what the OP's purchaser is asking although some may consider that to be a more calculated form of evasion - actively stating an items true worth to evade tax compared to walking through the 'nothing to declare' channel at the airport!

As said, if the purchaser wants to do that it's their decision but they shouldn't involve the seller in that.
 
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Well in my country the government wants 21% + additional costs of everything that comes into the country from outside of the EU be it brand new ( which I can understand ) or be it 2nd hand. They make no distinction between the two.

For 2nd hand goods I totally disagree as the tax has already been paid somewhere at some point and it has got nothing to do with the government here. Legalized theft IMHO.