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  1. VintageNoob Mar 11, 2014

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    I have been bitten by the vintage watch bug, and this was my first (uninformed) purchase. Is the watch real/original, a fake, or a frankenwatch? I've been lurking in the forums for a week or so and there really is some great info here. My observations - Really clean for a 50+ yr old gold plated watch. Movement looks authentic. Quadruple signed (crown, dial, movement, case). Omega appears to make this dial from their database. I don't see anything that is visually off, but I'm no expert. I just can't seem to make Omega's database, the case markings, and the caliber match up with a specified model. Is Omega's database exhaustive or are some models missing.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-196...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557Purchases made through these links may earn this site a commission from the eBay Partner Network

    Guidance on the authenticity of the watch would be greatly appreciated, and what it was that I missed.

    I'll have to admit this damn watch fetish is addictive and I can foresee myself spending lots of money & time on it in the future, so I would like to be informed. If anyone has any good suggestions for beginner's books, blogs, etc. they would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. cristos71 Mar 11, 2014

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    It looks like a very nice Omega Geneve. The case looks to be in great shape with a nice, sharp bezel. The calibre 601 is a very good manual wind calibre, I have one myself and it keeps excellent time and is also quite pretty to look at.:)

    I would say you did well at that price and that your watch is a fine introduction to vintage Omega:thumbsup:
     
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  3. Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar Mar 11, 2014

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    Your watch is genuine and seems to be all original. The only thing I am uncertain about is the crown, is the logo colored in black?
     
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  4. Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Mar 11, 2014

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    Looks like pink hands where the case and dial furniture is yellow (perhaps the lighting?) Looks like the plating on the logo (crown) has worn off?

    This said, it looks fantastic. If my observations are true they are minor distractions. I agree you did well with this one. Congrats!
     
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  5. VintageNoob Mar 11, 2014

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    No the logo isn't colored in black, but some of the gold plating is coming off. In the future I will be looking for stainless, solid gold, or at least gold filled, so this shouldn't be an issue. The hands may be a different color. I don't have the watch with me at the moment, but I'll have to check. So in the future the hands should match? Just received it yesterday. Planned on wearing it today, but the band is too short. Any suggestions on bands (brands, where to buy, etc.)? Thank you all for all of your help.
     
  6. Time Exposure coordinates his cast with his car's paint job Mar 11, 2014

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    Not speaking from personal experience, but search Kelaran on Google/web browser. They have an eBay shop, and come highly recommended by some folks on this forum.

    And yes, I believe the hands should match the dial furniture at least.
     
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  7. Joe K. Curious about this text thingy below his avatar Mar 11, 2014

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    This is correct. I thought it could be a lighting issue, but could be wrong.


     
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  8. VintageNoob Mar 11, 2014

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    Second hand matches. Hr and min hands are copper or rose colored. Obviously this is not a high end collectors piece so its not a big issue. Ifit were how much difference do non original hands make?
     
  9. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Mar 11, 2014

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    Lighting plays tricks on us sometimes. You'll know for sure when it arrives. If the hands are pink, I'm sure there may be a few people around here who might have a use for them.

    Replacements yellow hands are available.
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  10. VintageNoob Mar 12, 2014

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    So what is okay to have replaced on a watch, and it still be considered "original"? I've gathered that having the dial re-done is a no-no, polishing even can be a no-no. Presumably replacing the crystal is okay, replacing the band is okay. What really matters with regards to maintaining an "original" watch?
     
  11. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Mar 12, 2014

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    "Original" is in the eye of the beholder. For me, that means that it is OK to replace parts with new parts that were designed by the manufacturer to be used in that watch. This includes crystals, crowns, hands, gears, even dials and cases.

    However, refinishing a dial is not the same as replacing with the correct part. I always hate when a seller says dial is original, meaning that the metal underneath the crappy paint job is original. Happens all too often.

    Even when you replace a part, it's a good idea to save the originals in case a new owner wants to go back to the aged look.

    If you sell the watch and disclose what you replaced, then you will always be a respected seller.
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  12. dragoman Mar 13, 2014

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    I hate when you have a watch that does not work, with an immaculate dial, you take it to your watchmaker, and comes back with a faded dial, which he tries to explain with stories about loose feet, waxed hands and who knows what else. He then offered a redial for free, but I refused.

    Then I bought two watches on ebay that didn't work but were otherwise unmolested (or so the seller says), just to scavenge the supposedly unmolested dials, and I ended up with three watches with dials in different states of disrepair: one unwaxed with loose feet firmly reattached back (or at least that's what I hope, having seen the sorry state in which my poor watch was delivered back to me), the other (the first one I bought on ebay) redialed by a toddler with a shaky hand, and the third one so far gone that it seemed to be on its way back).

    I am frankly beginning to entertain the idea of introducing skeleton Omega Dynamics in the market. If it worked for the Ukranian dial doctors, it may work for me.