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Reaffirmation of why I try to never deal with dealers.....
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·I have dealt with one or two Italian dealers and they are not all the same!
I've only dealt with one and that was a thoroughly positive experience 😀
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Sublime_1
·Jesus, mate ... did a rabbit shit in your porridge?
Mind you, I'm still waiting for mine to cook while dancing around the kitchen with Nina Simone ...
Perhaps @cristos71 will trade the SM for a sausage or two?
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tyrantlizardrex
·What's happening with those sausages, Carlie?
“Two minutes Turkish.”
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maxbelg
·I had a very bad experience buying a Speedy from Italy. I assume there are lots of honest dealers as well, but I'll be very careful next time around! Once bitten, twice! 😗
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BartH
·I think I've bought from that dealer.
A Longines that was erroneously described as a mint re-edition. One of my best deals ever.
A Longines that was erroneously described as a mint re-edition. One of my best deals ever.
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77deluxe
·I stay away from dealers no matter their location. Most are exclusively profit driven at the expense of opennes and fairness. I know that is not always the case, but from all the inaccurate descriptions and intentionally lacking in detail descriptions that I have seen (from dealers who are obviously knowledgeable), I just stay away. And hunting is much more fun.
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jlafou1
·I'm a relative noob and have talked with a couple US dealers regarding a Speedmaster I acquired (I've since decided to keep it) and both were polite and professional.
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speedbird
·I completely agree with most of the sentiments here. A while back I proposed a nice rolex trade and it was positive to them too. I understand they have to have meat on the bone, it was about a +$900 net to them straight trade. I was being very conservative I though. They told me I’d need to add an additional $1200 to the deal. Ummm, no.
I understand they need to make money but making money on every single side of it turns me off.
I work with one dealer, he’s pretty big, can get me mostly what I want at a reasonable price.
I understand they need to make money but making money on every single side of it turns me off.
I work with one dealer, he’s pretty big, can get me mostly what I want at a reasonable price.
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watchknut
·Numbers have to match on trade...if they ask higher prices, then they should give higher prices in trade.
I dealt with a wholesale dealer who offered wholesalenprices on trade...but then again, his asking price for the watch was not a high retail number.
He told me I was better off selling and coming to him with cash...I appreciated his honesty.
I dealt with a wholesale dealer who offered wholesalenprices on trade...but then again, his asking price for the watch was not a high retail number.
He told me I was better off selling and coming to him with cash...I appreciated his honesty.
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cristos71
·That is insane Chris.
But he will know that you are never going to sell at that price. At least counter, let's see how much he will change his price 😀
I find when a seller starts off like this with such a gap in valuations I can't even be bothered to continue the discussion, my tolerance for BS is way too low 😁
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·What a turd. I'm Italian and I have a couple of friends who regularly trade with dealers from there. Would you care to send a link to his shop or share his name via PM? I'd love to know who he is and make sure people I know will never even think of going there
Well, I'm not really pointing a finger at this seller specifically, and certainly not at Italians in general. He can do whatever the hell he likes and everybody is free to buy wherever they want too.
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··His Holiness Puer SurdusWell, the dealer is expected to make a profit --- dealer prices. Can't get around that really unless he needs to unload, for whatever reason.If the buyer is also looking to trade then the dealer's profit is expected to go up, not down.
The way I usually approach negotiation in western societies is to think of a price that you are ready to pay (say 20k) and offer an amount that is reduced by an equal amount of the difference (27.5 - 20 = 7.5k difference ) so counteroffer of about 20k -7.5k = 12.5k.
Negotiation needs to be dispassionate. The dealer may pull out his violin and complain that you are killing him but forget about these histrionics, and take your time and enjoy the show. In the end a good deal is when everyone is happy. There is no guarantee that an agreement will be reached though.
Cheers!
The way I usually approach negotiation in western societies is to think of a price that you are ready to pay (say 20k) and offer an amount that is reduced by an equal amount of the difference (27.5 - 20 = 7.5k difference ) so counteroffer of about 20k -7.5k = 12.5k.
Negotiation needs to be dispassionate. The dealer may pull out his violin and complain that you are killing him but forget about these histrionics, and take your time and enjoy the show. In the end a good deal is when everyone is happy. There is no guarantee that an agreement will be reached though.
Cheers!
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·I’m sorry to say Chris, but your Seamaster is only worth this bowl of porridge...
please send the watch and I’ll send the porridge.
Very kind offer and I'm pleased you value my SM so highly, I'll pop it in the post in the morn' 😉
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cristos71
·Numbers have to match on trade...if they ask higher prices, then they should give higher prices in trade.
This exactly.
And herein is my problem.
I don't let myself get screwed at both ends when trading in my car, so I'm certainly not going to let it happen when trading in a watch!
