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Re-dial or not? Gold 145.016 on Ebay.

propervinyl
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Hi OF,

I am looking at a gold 145.016 that looks kind of OK, but I'm having trouble determining whether the dial is original, or whether it is a really good redial. Specifically, it looks like the fonts on "Omega" and "Seamaster", subsecond indices, and tachymetre print is a bit bolder than other photos I've seen.

My research has yielded some minor font variations in 145.016 models, but I also havent found good photos of other watches.

What do you all think?

Also, if you think this thread should be moved somewhere else in the forum, let me know.

Thanks in advance!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122535679889?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
 
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cagkut
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JimInOz JimInOz
Redial.

Pic added.

Can you please elaborate? If that to-be star point out to the location of the markers they are all correctly placed?
 
gatorcpa
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JimInOz JimInOz
Redial.

Pic added.

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Are you sure the watch is perfectly straight in the picture?

This is why I don't like using this technique for determining originality of a dial.

No substitute for having it in your hand with a loupe.
gatorcpa
 
JimInOz
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
Are you sure the watch is perfectly straight in the picture?

This is why I don't like using this technique for determining originality of a dial.

No substitute for having it in your hand with a loupe.
gatorcpa

I agree, but the shot looks very close to square-on and the difference in position is too much to ignore. The inking is also much too heavy for my liking. The extra "T" ? I can't see any marker lume, and I'm not sure I can see any hand lume either, maybe on the minute hand.

With pics of this quality, and the doubts raised I think it's safer to walk away.
 
Sherbie
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The case alone would stop me from bidding on this one. Keep searching, is my 2 cents
 
cagkut
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Sherbie Sherbie
The case alone would stop me from bidding on this one. Keep searching, is my 2 cents
That's another story but I don't see anything wrong with that dial in the pics provided. Inking heavy? This I guess implies that someone had repainted the dial from scratch and if that is the case, it is pure art and the watch should be valued accordingly 😉
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ConElPueblo
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JimInOz JimInOz
I agree, but the shot looks very close to square-on and the difference in position is too much to ignore. The inking is also much too heavy for my liking. The extra "T" ? I can't see any marker lume, and I'm not sure I can see any hand lume either, maybe on the minute hand.

With pics of this quality, and the doubts raised I think it's safer to walk away.

AFAIK, all of these have T's, regardless of having lume or not. The watch is slanted slightly, as can be seen from the shadows forming between the lugs, btw.

If this is a redial, it is pretty well executed. The only thing that makes me pause is the slightly heavy-handed text.

Here's an example found when googling around 😉

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-1968-omega-18k-seamaster-caliber-321-chronograph-492270.html

IMG_3872-1.jpg
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
AFAIK, all of these have T's, regardless of having lume or not. The watch is slanted slightly, as can be seen from the shadows forming between the lugs, btw.

If this is a redial, it is pretty well executed. The only thing that makes me pause is the slightly heavy-handed text.

Here's an example found when googling around 😉

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-1968-omega-18k-seamaster-caliber-321-chronograph-492270.html

IMG_3872-1.jpg

ILSNED 👍
 
Edward53
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I would not judge that watch by the "heavy" lettering. The light can make a huge difference to a photo. This is the same watch:

IMG_3806.JPG IMG_5356.JPG
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
AFAIK, all of these have T's, regardless of having lume or not. The watch is slanted slightly, as can be seen from the shadows forming between the lugs, btw.

If this is a redial, it is pretty well executed. The only thing that makes me pause is the slightly heavy-handed text.

Here's an example found when googling around 😉

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/fs-1968-omega-18k-seamaster-caliber-321-chronograph-492270.html

IMG_3872-1.jpg
But the M itself in seamaster, the left side is thicker than the rest of it. Looks unequal heavy handed text.
 
gatorcpa
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But the M itself in seamaster, the left side is thicker than the rest of it. Looks unequal heavy handed text.
The OP's picture is out of focus.

You cannot tell for sure from the photos provided. My gut says original.
gatorcpa
 
propervinyl
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
The OP's picture is out of focus.

Out of focus and poorly lit.

Right now its at $2,100 with 20 mins to go. Maybe one of you guys have an extra dial laying around and this is worth the risk for you. I'm going to pass.
 
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
The OP's picture is out of focus.

You cannot tell for sure from the photos provided. My gut says original.
gatorcpa
I say original dial too. I watched until the end. Sold for $3148. Sheesh a solid gold chronograph is $1000 less than a DON bezel. Decisions decisions; a whole solid gold watch or a stainless steel part of a watch...
 
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