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Rare Longines, looking for information!

  1. HairspringHarry Dec 17, 2021

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    Hi there
    I recently picked up this Longines and despite a lot of googling and research I am really struggling to identify it.

    It was bought at auction as a ref 6624/6626 with a cal 12.68ZS movement

    Serial 9.807.482
    35mm case

    The lugs obviously suggest it should be put on a military style strap and it has an obvious pilots watch design.

    The case is black with a steel crown and 2 piece case.

    Apparently issued to Baume & Co in 1954.

    TIA
    HH
     
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  2. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Dec 17, 2021

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    Likely bolted to some type of vehicle. I would say a car, given its small size, though I suppose it could have been an airplane.

    Assuming that the case is original, it was not designed to be worn on a wrist by a pilot, or anyone else.
     
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  3. HairspringHarry Dec 17, 2021

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    I did consider this but then would you issue it Baume & Co? Surely it would have been sent to the vehicle manufacturer? Unless Baume sent it onto them.
     
  4. Vitezi Dec 17, 2021

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    This source says "In 1876 Baume & Company became the exclusive importers of Longines watches into Britain and the British Empire, a role which they held until the mid 1960s."

    That would suggest your clock would have gone through Baume to get to the end-user, presumably a vehicle manufacturer. The clock has a mounting bracket that looks similar to those used on dashboard clocks of the era.
     
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  5. Tony C. Ωf Jury member Dec 17, 2021

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    Yes, they were the official Longines distributor in the U.K., everything would have gone through them.
     
  6. size11s Can’t bat, can’t bowl Dec 17, 2021

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    Is that a non luminous dial and hand set?
     
  7. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Dec 17, 2021

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    Unusual piece. Do you have photos of the inside of the case-back and movement? Have you contact Longines to inquire about the reference number that is associated with the serial number?
     
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  8. HairspringHarry Dec 18, 2021

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    Other than an extract from the archives just stating the ref number and issue date and agents I have nothing else.

    I may try and enquire further though.
     
  9. HairspringHarry Dec 18, 2021

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    Thanks for all your help chaps, much appreciated!
     
  10. size11s Can’t bat, can’t bowl Dec 18, 2021

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    How are the lugs for bolts attached to the case? Do they look like they came from the factory like that or an alteration? That case doesn't look like a case from 1954, to my eye it looks earlier. Is it possible to see a pic of the mid case with the case back off? There is often a specific reason to have a time piece with no luminous material at this date.
     
  11. HairspringHarry Dec 19, 2021

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    Hi there
    I'll try and upload more pics soon.
    Thanks
    HH
     
  12. Fritz genuflects before the mighty quartzophobe Dec 19, 2021

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    That gun metal case and plain dial would suggest a rather industrial application. Military vehicle would be my bet.
     
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  13. Dan S Dec 19, 2021

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    Looks like it may never have been installed.
     
  14. sleepyastronaut Dec 19, 2021

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    Could have been a design that was in production for a decade or more.

    ... or a Vespa!


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    pics from https://www.amazon.com/Clock-for-all-Vespa-Scooters/dp/B0047IMSOC

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  15. HairspringHarry Dec 23, 2021

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    Here are some more pics

    There is no crude soldering or anything so I believe this is how it was made in the factory.

    Thanks again for your help. The more I'm reading the more I feel it may be off a military vehicle of some sort.
     
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  16. Dan S Dec 23, 2021

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    If so, then the Extract may indicate that it was sold to a military supplier.
     
  17. HairspringHarry Dec 23, 2021

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    Extract just says Baume & Co. I've ended up emailing Longines to see if they can provide any further Information. I'll update you when they reply.
     
  18. DirtyDozen12 Thanks, mystery donor! Dec 23, 2021

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    They might be able to provide an image of the reference. If you are able to post photos of the inside of the case-back, that would also provide clues.
     
  19. size11s Can’t bat, can’t bowl Dec 30, 2021

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