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Ranchero with red seconds hand. Original?

cvrle1
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Hello everyone, found a Ranchero 2990-1 that has a red seconds hand. Looks to be original, shape and length looks like white, black or silver ones that are commonly found on Ranchero's, but it is red color. Since I can t find another example of it, was wondering if it was original to the watch. Could it be discoloration, and it was a different color when it came out of factory, replacement, Ranchero Ultraman (I KID, I KID, with all the Ultraman's popping up suddenly, I couldnt resist)

Thanks for the help

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Tony C.
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I'd say that you are confusing red with rust.
 
cvrle1
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Tony C. Tony C.
I'd say that you are confusing red with rust.
Now that you mentioned it, it makes sense. Didnt think of that clearly. Interesting that it could be rust, when movement doesnt look too bad.

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Thanks either way
 
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The OP Ranchero has been for sale for a while. The price is over $5,000 USD and to me it’s the lunar landscape dial that’s the main issue. The case appears overpolished as well. The seconds hand is incorrect but this isn’t that uncommon with 60 year old 2990-1 rancheros. To me, it certainly wouldn’t be THE deal breaker if the dial and case were better.

On the left is a 2990-1 example with the correct seconds hand. Example on the right is the center seconds version reference 2996.

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Flip
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gemini4 gemini4
The OP Ranchero has been for sale for a while. The price is over $5,000 USD and to me it’s the lunar landscape dial that’s the main issue. The case appears overpolished as well. The seconds hand is incorrect but this isn’t that uncommon with 60 year old 2990-1 rancheros. To me, it certainly wouldn’t be THE deal breaker if the dial and case were better.

On the left is a 2990-1 example with the correct seconds hand. Example on the right is the center seconds version reference 2996.

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As you say it’s not uncommon for a 2990-1 to have incorrect hands, were you being ironic using this photo as an example or had you just not noticed ?
 
gemini4
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Flip Flip
As you say it’s not uncommon for a 2990-1 to have incorrect hands, were you being ironic using this photo as an example or had you just not noticed ?

Not really following. Perhaps you can restate your question(s)
 
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gemini4 gemini4
Not really following. Perhaps you can restate your question(s)
Check the broad arrow hands on the watch you refer to in your post
 
gemini4
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Flip Flip
Check the broad arrow hands on the watch you refer to in your post

Ok, I checked them.
 
gemini4
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I’m stumped Mr Flip. Always happy to learn something new about a Ranchero. Do spell out your concern.
 
Flip
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Incorrect for that 2990-1
Look at the lume triangle in the minute hand, too long
 
gemini4
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It appears your concern is with my mediocre photography skills. Specifically, the combined effect of shaky hands, camera angles and the crystal. Here is a pic of four black 2990-1 Rancheros (including the example above) and the minute hand(s) now appear of proper dimensions. Although the rehaut in one does look off.

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Flip
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That would now appear to be the case looking at the new photos. As can clearly be seen the correct minute hand has a lume plot approx half the length of the hand, your original picture would appear to show a lume plot approx 3/4 the length
 
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gemini4 gemini4
It appears your concern is with my mediocre photography skills. Specifically, the combined effect of shaky hands, camera angles and the crystal. Here is a pic of four black 2990-1 Rancheros (including the example above) and the minute hand(s) now appear of proper dimensions. Although the rehaut in one does look off.

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Photography skills aside (joke), that is a great collection on one shot! Super.
 
Flip
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What about the minute hand on the 2990 with the red second hand .... or am I going crazy ::facepalm1::
 
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