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  1. vincent_vangogh Feb 4, 2017

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    Hi lads

    Does anyone know something to tell about the colour of the observatory in general and specific in my Constellation Calendar? Is "bronze" genuine?

    Best regards,
    Vince
     
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  2. BlackTalon This Space for Rent Feb 4, 2017

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    Any pics of the rest of the watch to see if that back is appropriate?
     
  3. vincent_vangogh Feb 4, 2017

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    Fotos could be better, I know...
    Ref. 2943
     
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  4. vincent_vangogh Feb 4, 2017

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    And another one
     
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  5. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 4, 2017

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    Medallion is 14K gold (58.3%). Other metals alloyed include copper which can cause lower grade gold to tarnish. That's likely what happened here.

    It can be polished and the yellow gold will shine again. Doing so removes some metal.

    If this were my watch, I'd leave it alone.
    gatorcpa
     
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  6. Hijak Feb 4, 2017

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    Me too!:thumbsup:
     
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  7. chronos Feb 4, 2017

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    That's interesting! I didn't know about it and also asked myself the same question.
    Thanks for the information! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  8. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 4, 2017

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    Here's another example of the same type of tarnish:

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    Note how sharp the edges are on this case. It likely has never been polished. Also notice how the gold-capped case is tarnishing in a similar manner. 14K gold can and does tarnish.
    gatorcpa
     
  9. François Pépin Feb 4, 2017

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    Very nice patina - I am talking of the gold case.
     
  10. sxl2004 Feb 4, 2017

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    I was wondering if a polish, like cape cod cloth or so would alsowork without removing much metal?
     
  11. ncstate1201 Feb 4, 2017

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    I would think this may tarnish differently because of it being against the skin and getting oils on them, especially if worn a lot, which may also explain some of the variance...
     
  12. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Feb 4, 2017

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    I absolutely agree, which is why most examples have a more yellow color on the observatory. The constant rubbing against your skin would minimize toning of the copper.

    Watches like the two shown above were likely not worn very much at all. They likely spent most of their lives in their box or a sock drawer.

    A couple of my gold-capped Constellations are developing a similar patina, now that I store them in original style boxes.

    I suspect that there is some slight acidity being leached out of the felt and causing chemical reactions with copper or silver in the alloy.
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  13. ncstate1201 Feb 4, 2017

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    Interesting never considered the box acidity, I guess some of the adhesives could even possibly leach through the material. One of my Omega outer boxes from the mid 2000s even ran into some issues and it was stored, never used or touched in the top shelf of a closet
     
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  14. vincent_vangogh Feb 5, 2017

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    That was my plan too...