Question About Safety in NYC

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Hey all.

My apologies ahead of time to anybody living in NYC, my intentions are not to stereotype. I'm just curious to how things have changed since I was there in 2013.

My wife and I will be in NYC in a couple of weeks. I live in Toronto, CA and I take public transit everywhere. I've been to NYC before, as well as other big cities in the US and I've taken the subway in NYC when I was there. I've never felt threatened or in danger getting around either here in Toronto or in other cities I've been to, including NYC. I'm not trying to say public transit is dangerous. I'm just saying that I haven't felt like I need to take a taxi/Uber everywhere, which is a safer option of travel, and I've never felt in danger when being in these major cities.

I told a friend we're going to NYC this summer and they said it isn't as safe as it used to be and they wouldn't dare take public transit if they were going there. I was also planning on bringing my Rolex Hulk and I was going to purchase an Omega Seamaster 300M. Omega's price difference between CAD and USD is not on par and favours buying in USD... weird. So, my question is is it safe to go out into public with a nice watch on and/or take the subway to get around? I would be staying in Union City and touring the hot spots like Manhattan and Brooklyn.

I am willing to leave my Hulk at home and just take a $20 Casio that I will wear as a beater watch. I can also conceal the Omega purchase when I leave the boutique and head back to our accommodations and not wear the Omega while I'm there. I'm just curious if that level of precaution is necessary based on what my friend said. Cheers!
 
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I am willing to leave my Hulk at home and just take a $20 Casio that I will wear as a beater watch. I can also conceal the Omega purchase when I leave the boutique and head back to our accommodations and not wear the Omega while I'm there. I'm just curious if that level of precaution is necessary based on what my friend said. Cheers!
Necessary? No. Prudent? Yes.

I rarely travel with any nicer watch. I just figure wherever I am, I’m going to be more distracted than normal, trying to figure out train transfers, walking routes, etc. Probably just enough that someone could mark me as a tourist if they wanted to.

So lock the Omega in the hotel vault until you are ready to leave and enjoy NYC.
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NYC public safety is not what it was previously when police were visible, supported and respected. I haven't been to NYC for years but it was never smart to flash a lot of wealth in public, and certainly not on the subway. I wouldn't be wearing a Hulk, leave it at home.
 
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Maybe the OP can can get some useful first-hand information from people who actually live in NYC, instead of second-hand reports, political dog-whistles, and guesses.
 
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Maybe the OP can can get some useful first-hand information from people who actually live in NYC, instead of second-hand reports, political dog-whistles, and guesses.
That’s what I was hoping for
 
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I take public transportation all of the time and never had an issue while wearing a watch of any sort. Vintage or modern watches can be seen every single day here. Like anyplace else, use common sense and you will be fine.
 
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Of course this depends of witch Hulk 😀)))))

For shure with that one nobody will miss you in the subway.
 
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The pandemic has caused crime to increase in many places around the world. Crime is up in your city and crime is up in NYC. However this increase comes after about 30 years of decrease. Crime fell in NYC between your last visit and the current increase. Across several of the major categories NYC is safer now than it was when you last visited in 2013.
 
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I wear Rolex and Omega on the subway all the time without concern. (I commute daily on the F and A trains between Brooklyn and Manhattan.)

When I was growing up every single adult who lived or worked in NYC would have a story about being mugged. Now nobody does, it's quite uncommon.

In addition, if you see an expensive-looking watch on the street or subway, it's at least 50/50 going to be a rep or an homage, so that's some protective camouflage.
 
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I live in Paris and one of my colleagues who also lives in Paris was followed out of a very safe train station, in one of the most affluent neighborhoods of Paris, and mugged by 4 guys who went after his very unassuming steel DateJust or Oysterdate. Didn’t even have a fluted bezel.
I had noticed his watch - he later posted something on social networks about 4 guys following him to steal his watch by force. Thankfully he wasn’t hurt and was very smart not to fight for it.

The bottom line is, you’re carrying in the street or the train something worth 5 to 15k euros/ dollars or GBP - in a troubled world with people struggling you’re a walking target, even in your own city where you know the lay of the land.

Of course this doesn’t answer anything about NYC or give any reliable stats but I wouldn’t want to be the one occurrence.
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I believe wearing any brand other than Rolex would be much safer, since Rolex is the most recognizable brand in the world! But often fakes are so good you can't tell if they are real until you open them. Not sure if criminals care less now to rob someone or not because of this.
 
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I’d leave the Rolex at home, buy the Omega first thing, then wear it and enjoy it during the trip. Watch thieves are targeting watches they can sell quickly for the most money — unfortunately, that is your Rolex. The thief that might target you for your Rolex probably wouldn’t even bother you with the Omega — they want something they can sell fast and get the most money from.
 
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Thieves often make assessments on general appearances. If your overall dress is toned-down, and the watch under a cuff, you could have 500K on your wrist and no one would bother you.
 
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Thieves often make assessments on general appearances. If your overall dress is toned-down, and the watch under a cuff, you could have 500K on your wrist and no one would bother you.

That’s true to a certain extent, but from my understanding of the thefts in the London and LA areas, these are teams who target the mark after seeing the watch on their wrist at a restaurant or bar in trendy places. Hard to eat or drink and keep your watch covered all the time. Doesn’t really matter what you are wearing in that case, or if you have your wrist covered while walking. If they caught a glimpse of the watch earlier (and they know what to look for), you’re the target. They follow until they get you in a compromising place and take it.
 
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That’s true to a certain extent, but from my understanding of the thefts in the London and LA areas, these are teams who target the mark after seeing the watch on their wrist at a restaurant or bar in trendy places. Hard to eat or drink and keep your watch covered all the time. Doesn’t really matter what you are wearing in that case, or if you have your wrist covered while walking. If they caught a glimpse of the watch earlier (and they know what to look for), you’re the target. They follow until they get you in a compromising place and take it.

For that very reason, I always slip a desirable watch into my pocket before arriving at a bar or restaurant.
 
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For that very reason, I always slip a desirable watch into my pocket before arriving at a bar or restaurant.

hopefully no one sees you do that and is an accomplished pickpocket.