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Hello,

I found a very beautiful 1963 vintage Omega on Chrono24 with a blue dial.

I have ordered it last week and should receive it tomorrow.

however after some research I found that most of the 1963 Omega blue dial seems to be fake.

I asked the seller and he keeps telling me it is the original one restored.

i would know (with all your expertise I unfortunately don’t have) what do you think.

the price is roughly 700€ for the watch.

here the picture of the dial.

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Yes, restored, and not sympathetically. Most collectors would avoid such redials, and would focus on good, original examples.

You are unlikely to be able to recover your purchase price, should you choose to re-sell it.
 
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Was it described as repainted on Chrono24? Or "refinished dial" or "restored dial" ?

If was not described like this, you can return it as it was incorrectly described. It is an obvious redial.

The escrow service will allow you to do that even if the seller does not agree in case of wrong description
 
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Thank you very much.

it was described as « the watch dial is in perfect restored, condition » word per word.
So you advice me to not accept the delivery or resend it ?

Did Omega produce any blue dial watch during the 60-80’s? What would be a fair price for it ?

thank you very much
 
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If it says restored then you are getting what you paid for. It just isn’t something a collector would want since it isn’t remotely original.
 
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If it says restored then you are getting what you paid for. It just isn’t something a collector would want since it isn’t remotely original.

Before I bought it I send a private message to the seller asking me if the dial was the original one.

He should tell me at this moment if the dial was repainted or not. Anyway that is not the question because I bought to a professional seller through Chrono24 so I can resend it without any problem.

it’s more about is it the fair price ? should I resend the article ?

But you all seem to agree I should.

thank you
 
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You paid double what it is worth..... The dial colour alone is an insult to watch collecting.comes close to Made in India phantasy repainted dials ... Send it back.
 
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You paid double what it is worth..... The dial colour alone is an insult to watch collecting.comes close to Made in India phantasy repainted dials ... Send it back.
Thank you very much I will do.

Do you know if Omega produced any blue dial watch during the 60-80’s. I see few blue Geneva models and I would know if they are redialed or not.

thank you
 
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There were a few, mostly Genèves and some Seamasters. You can always create a thread here and ask for an opinion if you find one you like. A few random examples:

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MtV MtV
There were a few, mostly Genèves and some Seamasters. You can always create a thread here and ask for an opinion if you find one you like. A few random examples:

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thank you very much for all the information you gave to me. I really appreciated it next time I’ll take more time and be less impulsive before ordering a watch.

I decided to refuse the delivery and send back the watch. Once I get the money back I’ll check again and consult you before any move.

thank you very much!
 
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Franco Franco
Was it described as repainted on Chrono24? Or "refinished dial" or "restored dial"?
OP you'll want to be on guard for the games some sellers play with these words. IMHO "repainted" is a correct description; "refinished" is tenable (but read, "in a completely non-vintage style"); "restored" is a lie - nothing left Omega in 1963 looking remotely like this. Your case for returning it is strong.
Btw I've nothing against either salvage watches or cheerful blue ones, I just like words to mean something. 😁
 
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OP you'll want to be on guard for the games some sellers play with these words. IMHO "repainted" is a correct description; "refinished" is tenable (but read, "in a completely non-vintage style"); "restored" is a lie - nothing left Omega in 1963 looking remotely like this. Your case for returning it is strong.
Btw I've nothing against either salvage watches or cheerful blue ones, I just like words to mean something. 😁

Hello,

yes i have been too much naïve I think because the guy was a professional seller.

however he fairly agreed on getting back the watch and share the shipping cost.

I’m looking for a cheap blue classic omega watch (like the last trésor one, I bought the white one as a new one but liked the blue one as well). And because second hand watch bought doesn’t have any sentimental value for me (bought not given, just a personal feeling) it would be also a long term investment as I wouldn’t have any problem to sell it in few years.

So this dial was a real issue 😀
 
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You bought this one for 700€, so this appears to be an acceptable price range for you. Within this budget you should be able to find a suitable example. The 136.0104 Genèves would be among the most easy to find, I’d say - yes, blue dials are more uncommon than white ones, but they do come up on eBay every now and then. I’ve seen plenty in the last year and bought an example myself. Open auction, good description but shattered plexi - ended at ~380€.
If Quartz is an option, this will even broaden your search results. The Seamaster on the Omega steel bracelet you see among my pictures sold for ~450€. Just to give you an idea.
 
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Thank you again for the other thread links and the advices about my blue dial research. I’ll read it carefully!

Unfortunately Quartz is not an option only manual (preferred 😀 ) or auto !
 
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€700 should be enough to find a decent, blue dialed Omega from the seventies and possibly also get it serviced, if there aren't any serious issues with it.

But if the main point of your watch purchase is to get a vintage, good looking, blue dialed watch of high quality, why not go for something else than an Omega? Have a look at late sixties/seventies Tissots and Certinas and you can have all sorts of fantastic watches for €200, leaving plenty for a service.

This is a 1977 Certina Blue Ribbon:

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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
€700 should be enough to find a decent, blue dialed Omega from the seventies and possibly also get it serviced, if there aren't any serious issues with it.

But if the main point of your watch purchase is to get a vintage, good looking, blue dialed watch of high quality, why not go for something else than an Omega? Have a look at late sixties/seventies Tissots and Certinas and you can have all sorts of fantastic watches for €200, leaving plenty for a service.

This is a 1977 Certina Blue Ribbon:

item_1292116_cb4f957c40.jpg

Aka the Levis/Jeans-dial? Looks awesome!
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
€700 should be enough to find a decent, blue dialed Omega from the seventies and possibly also get it serviced, if there aren't any serious issues with it.

But if the main point of your watch purchase is to get a vintage, good looking, blue dialed watch of high quality, why not go for something else than an Omega? Have a look at late sixties/seventies Tissots and Certinas and you can have all sorts of fantastic watches for €200, leaving plenty for a service.

This is a 1977 Certina Blue Ribbon:

item_1292116_cb4f957c40.jpg
Anyone called dibs on this one yet, @ConElPueblo? If not, sign me up! Stunning. 👍
 
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Anyone called dibs on this one yet, @ConElPueblo? If not, sign me up! Stunning. 👍

This was just a random photo grabbed from the web. I checked my usual site for old Certinas and currently there are a handful for sale. I have a couple myself that I intended to fix as a cheap project, but I never got around to doing anything about it...
 
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ConElPueblo ConElPueblo
€700 should be enough to find a decent, blue dialed Omega from the seventies and possibly also get it serviced, if there aren't any serious issues with it.

But if the main point of your watch purchase is to get a vintage, good looking, blue dialed watch of high quality, why not go for something else than an Omega? Have a look at late sixties/seventies Tissots and Certinas and you can have all sorts of fantastic watches for €200, leaving plenty for a service.

This is a 1977 Certina Blue Ribbon:

item_1292116_cb4f957c40.jpg

the dial is wonderful and look like one of the last de ville trésor who makes me want to buy a blue dial watch ! However I’m stuck with brands with a « big spread » between the brand new and vintage prices 😀

thank you very much
 
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