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Q: Origins of Speedmaster design

  1. Risto Aug 16, 2019

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    Recently a friend asked me about the origins of the Speedmaster design - the case, the bezel, the dial.
    I gave him an answer that the case was made by Huguenin Freres, but I'm not really 100% sure.
    The same goes for the bezel.
    The dial was made by Singer afaik.

    Also, Rodania Geometer had similar dial layout as Speedmaster, it lacked the bezel though.

    I tried to research this topic, but couldn't find anything from this forum and neither Google gave me anything.

    I'd appreciate if more knowledgeable members would give some feedback in this matter.
     
  2. JimInOz Melbourne Australia Aug 16, 2019

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    I just sent an email asking one of my mates who is a Speedmaster afishionado, "who is responsible for the design of the Speedmaster?".

    His one word reply was:

    "God".
     
  3. kov Trüffelschwein. Dec 6, 2020

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    A lot of discussions about the Rodania Geometer being the inspiration for the Speedmaster dial.

    What are your thoughts about this even earlier Breitling?

    upload_2020-12-6_11-26-47.jpeg

    My Geometer is being serviced atm, looking forward to make a pic of the three brothers from different mothers :)
     
  4. alefar Dec 6, 2020

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    Never seen that breitling before, thanks for sharing:thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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  5. Dash1 Dec 6, 2020

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    What year is the Breitling? Nice watch btw and surely an inspiration for the Speedmaster.
     
  6. kov Trüffelschwein. Dec 6, 2020

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    I have requested for information from Breitling Archives, will share as soon as I get feedback. My take on that is mid-1950s but let’s have this confirmed :)
     
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  7. Foo2rama Keeps his worms in a ball instead of a can. Dec 6, 2020

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    I wouldn’t say inspiration...

    the Brietling and Rodina share something with the speedy.

    Singer made the dials. Singer would design dials and offer them to watch makers.
     
  8. kov Trüffelschwein. Dec 7, 2020

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    Stop that one-hand keyboard thing ;)

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  9. kov Trüffelschwein. Dec 22, 2020

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    The information from the Archives at Breitling confirms this watch to be a ref.1191 produced in January 1958.

    It would have been good fun if the watch were from a pre-speedmaster era. Unfortunately it is from the same period as the 2915s :)

    So the Geometer remains the one :)

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  10. Dash1 Dec 22, 2020

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    Very interesting. Thanks for the update.
    Btw, is it an easy process to get archive information from Breitling?
     
  11. vlaspri Dec 22, 2020

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    Oh, never seen this one, the dial is veeery similar to Speedmaster!
     
  12. zoohannover Dec 22, 2020

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    A section in 'The Moon Watch' from Omega names the following Huguenin people responsible for designing the watch case: Claude Baillod as the designer, Georges Hartman, who built the prototype, and Désire Faivre, who took care of the subtleties.

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  13. Ascalon Dec 22, 2020

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    Very interesting, watching with interest.
    Keep the sources coming!
     
  14. kov Trüffelschwein. Dec 29, 2020

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    from the Breitling website :

     
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  15. Dash1 Dec 30, 2020

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    Many thanks indeed. Makes Omega’s extract look very reasonable in cost and ease of obtaining.
     
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